[Fixed] Decay heals undying

[IceFrog]

This issue is pretty much [Confirmed].
I don't know what else is required... Maybe some screenshots?

And I also retreat my assumption on my previous post. I've got a new one, and this time I'm pretty much sure it is all correct.


W3 DotA version:

Moment before the Undying casts his Decay on 4 dummy enemies: - Undying has 100/568 HP (17,6%)	Moment after the Undying casts his Decay on 4 dummy enemies: - Undying has 404/872 HP (46,3%)

Steps to obtain these values:

1. Decay hits 4 heroes
2. 4 str is transfered per hero
3. Each str is evaluates to 19 HP
4. 4 * 4 * 19 = 304 HP in total
5. Increase MaxHP and CurrentHP individually
6. (100 + 304) / (568 + 304) HP
7. 404/872 HP

Dota 2 version:

Moment before the Undying casts his Decay on 4 dummy enemies: - Undying has 100/568 HP (17,6%)	Moment after the Undying casts his Decay on 4 dummy enemies: - Undying has 546/872 HP (62,6%)

Steps to obtain these values (this will be crazy):

1. Decay hits 4 heroes
2. 4 str is transfered per hero
3. Each str is evaluates to 19 HP
4. Dota 2: "Decay hits all of them at once, but noooo, I will take them all seperately, and one by one, and I'll do it in such a wrong way that it will be damn hard for you to find it how!"
5. 4 * 19 = 76 HP per hero
6. Increase only the CurrentHP first
7. (100 + 76) / 568 HP
8. 176/568 HP
9. Now, calculate (MaxHP + 76) / MaxHP = 1,1338...
10. Multiply both MaxHP and the CurrentHP with this value
11. (176 * 1,1338...) / (568 * 1,1338...) HP
12. 199,55.../644 HP
13. Now, don't you ever round it like normal people do, get the int(), get the flat value
14. 199/644 HP
15. Repeat the steps above 3 more times...
16. (199 + 76) / 644 HP
17. 275/644 HP
18. ??? / (644 + 76) HP
19. 307,45.../720 HP
20. 307/720 HP
21. 383/720 HP
22. ??? / (720 + 76) HP
23. 423,43.../796 HP
24. 423/796 HP
25. 499/796 HP
26. 546,64.../872 HP
27. 546/872 HP

If I do not ever round, and use exact values for the calculation, the result is: 548,408.../872 HP
If I round using the conventional method, the result is: 549,930.../872 HP

So, the basic formula for single Decay instance is:

NewCurrentHP = int((CurrentHP + 76) / MaxHP * (MaxHP + 76))
NewMaxHP = MaxHP + 76

And if Decay inflicts more than one hero, then it does this again and again.
I don't know anything about programming, but making it like this should be a lot harder than simply increasing x and y by z.
This is too complicated and wrong.

And I want to add that each time the "Increase only the CurrentHP first" occurs, if the CurrentHP hits the quota, then you'll end up with MaxHP after the process is done.
So, if you get damaged for ~70 HP, you can get fully healed by casting decay on a single hero target.
And ~250 missing HP (not 4*76, since it is complicated) gets fully healed when you hit 4 heroes at once.
And getting fully healed is never possible on DotA, unless you were already at MaxHP of course...

This should be fixed in the next update, thanks for the details.

[Kevinriz9r]

thank you very much

[Typhox]

But I could remember your d1 you gain mana and lose after debuff (as undy).

Yes, that's how it was in DotA 1. Is completely different from Dota 2.

[polkunus]

Still, if you want to keep it this way, head over to playdota and suggest changing it in dota 1 there. In this forum it is nothing more than a bug.

fair enough

Are you serious?!
Most of all bugs haven't been fixed since forever, alone my poor Destroyer has at least 5 open bugs that all affect his balance very critically. They exist since 10 months now - reported since then as well.
They almost never fix bugs. ThoAppelsin is right. This forum should have at least some kind of fair moderation. If I report a bug I don't want to be forced to justify why it is bad how it is.
Else I'm just going into every thread on this forum and post there if I want the bug to be fixed or not.
You can't be serious.



Oh I had the same passion. Why would I waste my energy on such a forum where all you get in the end is a kick in the ass from some "moderator"?



The banish works exactly the opposite to it. It doesn't give OD the mana and doesn't remove it in Dota 2 (it does in DotA 1). It only scales his max mana pool. I always looked jealously at those Undying's. I didn't know that it was a bug :<

You're basically trying to say that its ok for moderators to suppress legitimate posts that are on topic.

[Typhox]

You're basically trying to say that its ok for moderators to suppress legitimate posts that are on topic.

I'm basically trying to say that moderators should prevent the gameplay-bugreport-forum from getting flooded with irrelevant opinion about whether a bug should be fixed or not.

[trena99]

Please when posting stay on topic.
Is this issue fixed?

[shalafi]

Not, it hasn't been fully fixed. It's now bugged like Armlet and Death pact, and shows the same glitchy behaviour when gaining or losing strength during the effect.

At least they did copy-paste the code from Armlet, which is how decay should work, but they haven't fixed the glitch that the "armlet code" has.

[RocketFingers]

The glitch you mean is losing only the max hp instead of max and current?

[shalafi]

The glitch you mean is losing only the max hp instead of max and current?

No, it works well in that regard. I'm talking about the armlet code glitch:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...728#post402578
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=65303


The easier way to check it if the glitch is active, it's just to keep on switching treads, and you'll see your % HP jumping, while it should be kept exactly the same (other than passive regen).

[ThoAppelsin]

Actually, is fixed.