once again... if you're retarded enough to get on "the list", every time you get 2+ reports you're gonna get back to lpq, this only applies to 25 games, unless you're stupid enough to keep being a dick and get reported again many times, so if you really don't flame you're gonna get out, if you flame between games, just stop being a fucking crybaby and be supportive to your team 25 games, it's not that hard
(Unless you end up in the automated system, which you only can by having been reported extremely often and extremely regularly and ended up in LP rightfully several times. In other words, when you deserve it. I'd strongly assume many of the people posting here on this forum are some of these guys, initially in the beta eric tams regularly checked reports from people who complained on the forum, turned out those guys ALWAYS deserved it and they were in the automated system.)
edit: that was the old system
Last edited by Chairraider; 05-09-2013 at 06:43 AM.
So, let's say I flame, feed intentionally and abuse abilities, I get banned for doing these stuff, then I decide to stop doing so, but thanks to the automated reporting system (that people are denying its existence) I get reported by some party (which I shouldn't even be matched with, but that's another problem the developers are ignoring) And I get banned, even though I stopped breaking any rules long time ago. Fair? I think not.
Can you get out of the automated system? Of course. How long does it take? I don't know, but I'm sure it's related to the fact that you stop getting frequent reports for the same reason.
The problem is, most people think that everything that goes wrong in life or in this game is someone else's fault, and could never be their own. Everyone wants to point fingers all over the place instead of, for once, taking some responsibility for their actions. If you screw up and get punished, learn from it, instead of blaming everyone else under the sun and continuing the behave in the same fashion.
"I'm in LPQ because of: 'Russians', 'Brazilians', 'newbs', 'blacks', 'Mexicans', 'white people', 'Jews', 'gay people', 'straight people', 'my neighbors dog'... you name it, fill in the blank, it doesn't matter. NONE of these are valid reasons. Anyone that is in LP is because of their own actions and because they were reported for their misconduct. If you are reported, assuming you're not already in 'automated' system, (which has been stated to be hard to get into in the first place) and the report is false, then you have nothing to worry about.
I've been almost 2000 matches, I've been reported for "feeding", "text abuse", whathaveyou, mostly because someone on my team was angry that we were losing, so they decided to report me because they'd feel better and their e-peen wouldn't shrink too much. Am I worried about these reports? No. Why? Because I didn't do whatever they were reporting me for, it was just their excuse to get one last trolling in before the game ended. These people are best if ignored. If you can't ignore them and instead decide to flame back, then you're only feeding the trolls and most likely fulfilling your own destiny to be in LP. If some jerk says, "I'm reporting you for text abuse, HAHAHAALOLOOLPOL!!!" and you say "fuck off."... Well, you just "text abused" and they win.
Get 10 friends to report your smurf
It strangely works.
Your statement just became false.
There is no way in Dota2 for Valve to prove whether a report is valid or not (As valve is obviously not hiring people to tend the report pile, I wouldn't expect them to either) . The only possible way that is feasible is a bot/script to check for text abuse. Everything else is meaningless.
" initially in the beta eric tams regularly checked reports from people who complained on the forum, turned out those guys ALWAYS deserved it and they were in the automated system" highlighting your quote this infers that they are not checked before a punishment is given.
This also infers that everyone who is in LPQ is there rightfully despite the fact you have already inferred there is no way of telling whether a punishment is true or false.
Sorry for being a bit brash but I am simply deducing as much as i can from any said statement from Valve or testers or anyone of authority.
So effectively that statement boils down to empirical evidence of the nature (Some guy checked out a few people out of thousands and those few deserved it, thus those few people (probably less than 100) instantly represents the thousands). In any statistical or Scientific study you would be laughed out of your job.
However it is nice that you took your time to comment or even look at threads like these. I thought most of valve and the moderators had just given up.
I think unless you actually clarified matters by providing proper evidence then this discussion is based on speculation and is a waste of time. As you know how it works (if you do know/were informed) and I can only infer how it works from data I have seen and the data you give me.
We both know that it is very unlikely you will give me anymore data, has been said stance of Valve for a long time. It seems like they would rather treat us like cattle than beta testers that have meaningful contributions to make. I will not play the fool thus I have been driven to infer knowledge from each word said by a person in some position of knowledge. So I am at a loss.
Any further information would be delightfully received.
10/10 best reporting system.Even if you behave, because of the fact that you've been verified as guilty so many times, it doesn't matter if you're not, the system now says you are.
Don't expect me to believe you until you provide a source.Can you get out of the automated system? Of course.
because of the automated reporting system*Anyone that is in LP is because of their own actions and because they were reported for their misconduct
What about the people in the automated pool? Oh, and please don't tell me the "boy who cried wolf" thing again.If you are reported, assuming you're not already in 'automated' system, (which has been stated to be hard to get into in the first place) and the report is false, then you have nothing to worry about.
FIX MMR POINTS TO BE AWARDED FOR INDIVUDUAL PERFORMANCE RATHER THAN WHOLE TEAM SHARING THE FATE FOR THE FEEDER AND VICE VERSA. SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE +VE MMR POINTS EVEN AFTER A LOSS IF YOU DID REALLY WELL.
ADD THE SURRENDER BUTTON SO THE CRUSHED TEAM DOES NOT WASTE >10 MINS AFK AT FOUNTAIN
ADD SIZE CUSTOMIZATION FOR THE HUD.