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    So I recently decided to mod the npc_heroes.txt file again after not playing with them for a while. Are there any new items bots are allowed to use now since the addition of atos and medallion? Mostly I just want to know if they can use MoM, because I just saw a screenshot of someone who had it in their Sven bot build.

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    Well from personal experience the only ones I'm unsure of are:

    Mask of Madness - None of my bots build it
    Abyssal Blade - Only a single bot builds it, and I've never seen him actually finish it
    Ethereal Blade - None of my bots build it, for that matter neither do any of them build Ghost Scepter. I presume they'll know how to use that one though, but as they often end up running into wombo combo's and it's a situational item to begin with I don't like the bots getting it
    They'll never use Helm of the Dominator, Shadow Amulet or Quelling Blade.

    I'm pretty sure they do use the earlier ones I mentioned though, I think more so the issue is whether it's worth it to use them.
    For one, the bots are -terrible- at using Satanic and Necrobook, they're extremely trigger happy on Diffusal Blade also if I'm not mistaken and end up consuming all their charges in no time. Additionally, they don't nearly make as good use out of Eul's, Shadow Blade, Armlet and Blink Dagger as is possible, and they also don't use Hands of Midas on large creeps for XP bonus (though this ain't that significant, they're good at using them the moment it goes off CD though so that's a plus).
    Also they're kinda poor at using Soul Ring and Arcane Boots, as they'll generally only use them if they're out of mana (Soul Ring) or at something like <30-40% (Arcane Boots)

    I personally think only Necrobook, Shadow Blade and Blink Dagger AI is bad enough to stop me from using them though, and even then some heroes still use the latter 2 for me, the other ones I mentioned it's more like 'there's (a lot of) room for improvement'.
    I absolutely hate using Hands of Midas on bots though, as it's an item that you should only get when you're doing well, and as the bot item builds are static they'll get it whether it's a 4m or a 15m Midas, which is just really bad.
    Last edited by Arxos; 08-28-2013, 08:03 PM.

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      They can use MoM, my Sven builds it.

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        They use MoM. My Sven and my Sniper are building it. They can use Dagon, too. I let my Dazzle get that =)
        Originally posted by biejis
        I PLAY SUPP AND SHOW WARD ALLGAME, PEOPLE NOT LEARN NOT CHANGE, PLAY DOTA FOR LOSE A GAME

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Karyoplasma View Post
          They can use Dagon, too. I let my Dazzle get that =)
          Does he perform Kill Secures for your carries?
          Last edited by Stepanma01; 08-28-2013, 11:55 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stepanma01 View Post
            Does he perform Kill Secures for your carries?
            No, he doesn't. That surprised me too. He usually uses it directly after casting Poison Touch to do damage and then lets another hero take the kill. I very rarely see him actually KS with that.
            Originally posted by biejis
            I PLAY SUPP AND SHOW WARD ALLGAME, PEOPLE NOT LEARN NOT CHANGE, PLAY DOTA FOR LOSE A GAME

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Karyoplasma View Post
              No, he doesn't. That surprised me too. He usually uses it directly after casting Poison Touch to do damage and then lets another hero take the kill. I very rarely see him actually KS with that.
              Going off topic a bit, but I find it funny how Dazzle doesn't even perform kill steals with a Dagon, but Omniknight I find kill steals quite a bit with his Purification spell.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stepanma01 View Post
                Going off topic a bit, but I find it funny how Dazzle doesn't even perform kill steals with a Dagon, but Omniknight I find kill steals quite a bit with his Purification spell.
                I think they've been programmed to do as little killsteals as possible with Laguna/Finger/Dagon/Zeus ult, but yeah besides those spells they don't really give a damn.

                To be fair though I think it's perfectly fine if they killsteal anything but the most obvious of kills. And I mind those more so because it'd be a complete waste rather than anything else.

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