Spectating Bots

[chris71piooo]

I think they just rarely use it on difficulties outside of hard or unfair

I always spectate on at least hard difficulty, so i don't think its a difficulty thing

[DreadedGhoul575]

I reckon it's because the game thinks you're on a different team, so give the bots a disadvantage. e.g. play on radiant on medium solo and notice on the later game that the bots courier is just completely still outside of the fountain.

[Munckeyz]

I spectate them on hard and they often use the courier, either to bring them their big items or fairly expensive components for other items - stuff like a Mithril Hammer if they're going for a Desolator.

[DreadedGhoul575]

How to spectate bots (Text within quotation marks such as " and " should be plain text e.g. "sv_cheats 1" should be typed as sv_cheats 1)
1. With "-console" (without quotes) in the launch options, start dota 2.
2. You now see the console, now type "sv_cheats 1" (You can now use cheats)
3. Now type in "dota_surrender_on_disconnect 0" (this makes it so the game does not end if you disconnect)
4. Next, the map which dota 2 is played on "map dota" (this starts up a regular map of dota 2)
5. Type "jointeam spec" (This makes you join the spectator team)
6. Next is "dota_bot_set_difficulty 4" (Four is unfair difficulty if you want the bots to be close enough to pro)
7. Finally, "dota_bot_populate" (This makes the game add up to 5 bots on each team)

[DreadedGhoul575]

The bots seem to be putting the courier outside of the fountain spawn again.

[NTTHRASH]

And then never using it.

[simis simomis]

Again this should probably be related to the difficulty setting you've got them on. Mine work fine.

[DreadedGhoul575]

It was working and now they've gone back from unfair to medium behaviour lol. Proper strange

[NTTHRASH]

If there is no human player, bots don't use the courier OR wards after the 0:00 mark.

[DreadedGhoul575]

Shame it doesn't work. I've only figured one exact way to get it to work. To download Dota 2 Test, the bots actually work on that against each other, plus they even use the new heroes they use; Pudge, Riki.

[simis simomis]

They work fine for me, at least on normal Dota. Not tried it on Reborn.

[DreadedGhoul575]

On reborn, there is a bug with the console; it constantly stays on the screen, so you can't fully watch the match hopefully it'll be fixed

[DreadedGhoul575]

I think I figured out the problem with bots putting down the courier (it's because they aren't on unfair, plus they ain't on your team, so they glitch due to you being spectator), you have to use this command "dota_bot_practice_difficulty 4" (default is 1) and it should work, worked for me, also I have "dota_bot_match_difficulty 4", but I'm pretty sure it automatically changes when you set that on the bot match, or co-op vs ai.

Have fun!

[NTTHRASH]

No, it didn't work for you. Because you don't know what we are discussing. In all-AI matches, bots cannot use the courier AT ALL.

[DreadedGhoul575]

? I was spectating and the bots actually place the courier inside their spawn areas when I use them cheats, so I'm pretty sure it works now (I tried it lots of times and it works with the cheats above). Bots do use courier, but from my experience, enemies (if you play solo or co-op) won't use courier on lower difficulties than hard or unfair I think (haven't tried hard), because they place theirs outside of their base.