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  • Echo slam on nothing

    Uh, the earthshaker bot on the other team used echo slam on nothing (i was close to it attacking his allies btw)
    Can you see replays of bot matches or it's just available to me?
    http://www.youtube.com/user/swordzzzzz

  • #2
    I have noticed this aswell. I can't repro this atm, but i will try to.

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    • #3
      I've been lead to believe that at times he'll consider the AoE size of his ultimate to be the size of the pulses. As in, if one of the pulses would hit you, he'll think you'll get hit by the full damage of it.

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      • #4
        I've seen some odd echo slams occasionally, he sometimes uses it as a finisher when ganking lone heroes.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
          I've seen some odd echo slams occasionally, he sometimes uses it as a finisher when ganking lone heroes.
          He often echo slams in terrible positions, such as when he thinks he can get the kill he will echo slam a solo hero when he is already out of range

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          • #6
            Originally posted by botsyunocaptainsmode View Post
            He often echo slams in terrible positions, such as when he thinks he can get the kill he will echo slam a solo hero when he is already out of range
            I think there's two seperate issues here: interpretation of range (the echoes issue), and judgement of when Echo Slam should be used (i.e, not as a finisher unless it's their farmed hardcarry who's screwing over your entire team).
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            • #7
              Oh i noticed that too, i thought it was just him failing with his blink dagger.

              But +1 to this.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by botsyunocaptainsmode View Post
                He often echo slams in terrible positions, such as when he thinks he can get the kill he will echo slam a solo hero when he is already out of range
                he'll even slam near towers with little or no creeps at all sometimes :/

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                • #9
                  Looks like a problem to me where he thinks his Echo Slam has a bigger AoE than it actually does.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think this is exclusive to Earthshaker. I see a lot of heroes randomly use an ability just for the the hell of it. Earthshaker does occasionally drop Fissures in the most random places as well. I've noticed Sniper casting Shrapnel on the ground while Juggernaut goes into Blade Fury and spin AWAY from the approaching creep wave.

                    Honestly, just follow ES around for ten minutes and he'll drop at least one Fissure in a very obscure location. I'm considering approaching bot matches as a broadcaster just to analyze out of place behaviors like this and compile a list.

                    Edit: Apparently you can't be a broadcaster in an all bot match. It ends exactly 30 seconds into the match because there are "no players".
                    Last edited by squinte; 04-15-2012, 06:11 PM.
                    This ain't ova.

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                    • #11
                      I've seen Tide use Ravage at very odd times too, with no one around. Hopefully there's just one cause to all of these issues.

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                      • #12
                        Es can also fire off completely random fissures as well

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                        • #13
                          i just saw ES do this with 3 of us surrounding him at 400 range each, in a 120 degree arc; but only 2 or 3 creeps around (more creeps were farther about 600-700 range). he got scared and echoslammed then ran into fog, needless to say it did minimal damage. does he use the same ulti logic as Tide, that may be the problem

                          i noticed ES just fissures at groups of creeps which is fine if he had mana like arcane boots or soul ring. when he hits heroes while doing this it's probably coincidental. or there maaaaaaybe a quick check like shackleshot to see if any hero is close enough to hit also, but this seems unlikely.
                          Last edited by poogs; 04-18-2012, 04:40 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Regarding the Fissures, it's mentioned in http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...l=1#post180612 so that should be better next patch.

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