Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules

  • No flaming or derogatory remarks, directly or through insinuation.
  • No discussion, sharing or referencing illegal software such as hacks, keygen, cracks and pirated software.
  • No offensive contents, including but not limited to, racism, gore or pornography.
  • No excessive spam/meme, i.e. copious one liners in a short period of time, typing with all caps or posting meme responses (text/image).
  • No trolling, including but not limited to, flame incitation, user provocation or false information distribution.
  • No link spamming or signature advertisements for content not specific to Dota 2.
  • No Dota 2 key requests, sell, trade etc.
  • You may not create multiple accounts for any purpose, including ban evasion, unless expressly permitted by a moderator.

  • Please search before posting. One thread per issue. Do not create another thread if there is an existing one already.
  • Before posting anything, make sure you check out all sticky threads (e.g., this). Do not create new threads about closed ones.
  • It is extremely important that you post in correct forum section.

  • Balance discussion only in Misc.
  • All art related (such as hero model) feedbacks go to Art Feedback Forum.
  • All matchmaking feedback should go here: Matchmaking Feedback
  • All report/low priority issues should go here: Commend/Report/Ban Feedback
  • No specific workshop item feedback. These should go to workshop page of that item.
  • When posting in non-bugs section (such as this), use [Bugs], [Discussion] or [Suggestion] prefix in your thread name.



In case you object some action by a moderator, please contact him directly through PM and explain your concerns politely. If you are still unable to resolve the issue, contact an administrator. Do not drag these issues in public.



All rules are meant to augment common sense, please use them when not conflicted with aforementioned policies.
See more
See less

Creeps attack heros way to much.

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • ChrisC
    replied
    Not really a bot issue so I'm closing this.

    Leave a comment:


  • Wyvrex
    replied
    It works perfect how it is. The other team can pull the creep wave back? So can you. The enemy creeps move to attack you when you make an aggressive move at an enemy hero. They are defending him, its what they are supposed to do.

    Leave a comment:


  • Arxos
    replied
    Originally posted by RJTravis View Post
    THEY shouldnt attack b4 the enemy hero fires! they should have to wait for the hero to do a full attack not just click & then fall back with out even attacking & no in dota 1 the creeps only attack you if you attack a enemy not if you start a auto attack then stop it b4 firing
    In WC3 there isn't even an event for doing that so unless you'd start doing some crazy stuff with JASS that's ain't happening.
    Besides, do you realize how unbalanced it'd be if it worked that way? Melee heroes would never be able to pull creeps towards them, only ranged heroes would be able to.
    Sense =/= Game balance

    Leave a comment:


  • vladhood
    replied
    no in dota 1 the creeps only attack you if you attack a enemy not if you start a auto attack then stop it b4 firing
    definitely not lol. as soon as you issue an attack command and you're within range, they switch to you immediately.

    Leave a comment:


  • AndR
    replied
    Originally posted by RJTravis View Post
    THEY shouldnt attack b4 the enemy hero fires! they should have to wait for the hero to do a full attack not just click & then fall back with out even attacking & no in dota 1 the creeps only attack you if you attack a enemy not if you start a auto attack then stop it b4 firing
    That's just not true, try it out with CM for example (she has a very long swing, so it should be clear).

    Leave a comment:


  • RJTravis
    replied
    THEY shouldnt attack b4 the enemy hero fires! they should have to wait for the hero to do a full attack not just click & then fall back with out even attacking & no in dota 1 the creeps only attack you if you attack a enemy not if you start a auto attack then stop it b4 firing

    Leave a comment:


  • Kakkoii
    replied
    Originally posted by Opreich View Post
    Well, they keep running down the lane to get killed. THAT doesn't seem too smart.
    They sacrifice themselves for you! They are a truly dedicated army :P

    Leave a comment:


  • Opreich
    replied
    Originally posted by Kakkoii View Post
    Also... their ENEMY creeps.. They would be pretty stupid minions if they didn't automatically go after the heroes when they are seen. (Yeah, let's just stand here, not help out our heroes, and get killed by the opponents heroes... We are smart creeps.)
    Well, they keep running down the lane to get killed. THAT doesn't seem too smart.

    Leave a comment:


  • Kakkoii
    replied
    Originally posted by RJTravis View Post
    If this is intended its stupid It makes the game so easy & the other team only hope is to also do it its really fail when you pull the creeps & never attack the enemy because they are out of range
    That's like saying having items, killing creeps, picking up runes and having ranged units makes the game so easy as well then. Since "the other team only hope is to also" buy items, collect runes or kill creeps. Or the fact a ranged hero can hit a melee hero a few times before they get to them.

    That's the point of strategy, you have to learn and prepare yourself for various scenarios. If an enemy team is pulling a large creep wave with them, do I run inside of it and have my ass handed to me? No. You hold back, perhaps try and collect your own creep wave. You coordinate with your team to try and take them on properly. And if you're ranged, you can also try and pick some of the creeps off while you wait for teammates.

    Dota isn't just, level up, buy items and charge opponent (like some other Moba's.. cough). It takes lots of coordination between teammates and tactical thinking.


    Also... their ENEMY creeps.. They would be pretty stupid minions if they didn't automatically go after the heroes when they are seen. (Yeah, let's just stand here, not help out our heroes, and get killed by the opponents heroes... We are smart creeps.)

    Leave a comment:


  • Equal
    replied
    this is balace,
    an its a very heavy, it was like this like for ever in dota1...
    go to playdota.com to discuss there your "balance" wish

    Leave a comment:


  • RJTravis
    replied
    If this is intended its stupid It makes the game so easy & the other team only hope is to also do it its really fail when you pull the creeps & never attack the enemy because they are out of range

    Leave a comment:


  • AndR
    replied
    As said, intended. All enemy creeps in 500 radius around you will attack you when you target an enemy hero. This forced attack lasts for, I think, 2 seconds. After that you can lose aggro (by stopping to attack the hero, running away, or issuing an attack command on an allied unit).

    Leave a comment:


  • articulate
    replied
    Well done, you just discovered a skill. Or half of it, known as creep pulling.

    Leave a comment:


  • Arxos
    replied
    This is fully intended.
    Also, this forum is dedicated to hero bot AI, not creep AI.

    Leave a comment:


  • HMAN911
    replied
    Guess you never played dota 1.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X