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[Suggestion] No Abandonment of Bot games

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  • Kil
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    By the way, the no DC on unfair bots is dumb as hell. It's beyond unfair and the game is already messed up game by the guy leaving.

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  • Rainer
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    Originally posted by Domino View Post
    Seeing as your relatively new I would guess that you missed the time when there was no punishment.

    It was almost impossible to complete a game because people would leave when they didn't get the hero/lane they wanted. Games always ended up being 3v5 etc (this was the time before bots went afk in fountain per player that DC'd) and people just left randomly all the time for no reason which only made it frustrating.
    Yeah i remember those times so i said it would be better if they lower the punishment on bot games

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  • Domino
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    Seeing as your relatively new I would guess that you missed the time when there was no punishment.

    It was almost impossible to complete a game because people would leave when they didn't get the hero/lane they wanted. Games always ended up being 3v5 etc (this was the time before bots went afk in fountain per player that DC'd) and people just left randomly all the time for no reason which only made it frustrating.

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  • Rainer
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    Originally posted by AlC View Post
    I'd remove the lpq if the remaining players allow him to leave first without consequences through a vote like "Do you allow X to leave without penalty Yes/No". If some guy must go for some legit reason or gets disconnected ? Ok, I'll vote yes. If some guy picks Riki (or insert any hero that is not a mid-hero) without regards for his team composition, fights his own team to hog the mid lane because he wants early xp and money, dies 5 times in a row and obviously rage-quits ? I'll vote no, this guy would deserve his lpq 100%.
    Best comment on this thread ( As i said earlier they could just decrease the penalty for bot matches and that would be good too)

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  • AlC
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    I'd remove the lpq if the remaining players allow him to leave first without consequences through a vote like "Do you allow X to leave without penalty Yes/No". If some guy must go for some legit reason or gets disconnected ? Ok, I'll vote yes. If some guy picks Riki (or insert any hero that is not a mid-hero) without regards for his team composition, fights his own team to hog the mid lane because he wants early xp and money, dies 5 times in a row and obviously rage-quits ? I'll vote no, this guy would deserve his lpq 100%.

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  • JamesDrake
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    Originally posted by Outception View Post
    However, why not both?
    If Valve wanted to make a separate queue for bot games without any abandonment penalty, I'd be fine with it.
    This seems like a good solution to me

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  • Toomuchmooin
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    Originally posted by Mr.Evo View Post
    Hi SolidAsARock,

    you may give this thread a shot. At least you won't get put into low priority and you can be sure to finish your game without any interruption.
    I just want to modify what they said in that thread a bit (this is my way, not necessarily better, but I prefer it)

    Using the console, do the following steps:
    1. dota_surrender_on_disconnect 0 (should only be needed to spectate bots, but I'm putting it just in case)
    2. map dota
    3. jointeam goodguys (to join the radiant)
    or
    jointeam badguys (to join the dire)
    or
    jointeam spec (to watch the bots fight each other, a rather fun thing to do)
    4. dota_bot_populate

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  • Outception
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    I have to say No.
    People join bot games to learn, hopefully, how to play in pubs. While it is true that a bot will leave for every human that leaves, the game experience is still not the same. People won't learn how to play as well if they are constantly playing 3v3 and 4v4 games.

    However, why not both?
    If Valve wanted to make a separate queue for bot games without any abandonment penalty, I'd be fine with it.

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  • Mr.Evo
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    Hi SolidAsARock,

    you may give this thread a shot. At least you won't get put into low priority and you can be sure to finish your game without any interruption.

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  • SolidAsARock
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    Originally posted by JamesDrake View Post
    If the trolls of Dota can drop out for free if they don't get to play Mid/Drow/whatever it would lead to most bot games being 3v3 or less. I understand how it could be annoying, but still has to be a no from me.
    Totally understood

    I'm not really expecting my post to be of influence in the game and I've made my peace being in LPQ; I just wanted to see what others think of this and maybe take a shot, you never know who might come across this post

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  • JamesDrake
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    If the trolls of Dota can drop out for free if they don't get to play Mid/Drow/whatever it would lead to most bot games being 3v3 or less. I understand how it could be annoying, but still has to be a no from me.

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  • Rainer
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    They should at least decrease the penalty of abandonment for bot matches if they don't want to remove it

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  • Firegod1385
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    Originally posted by Timelimit View Post
    In my opinion they could remove it for difficulties below unfair only, because unfair bots don't DC to balance teams.
    I put yes, but I really mean yes, with this added stipulation.

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  • SolidAsARock
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    Yes, this is true, thanks for bringing that up.

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  • Timelimit
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    In my opinion they could remove it for difficulties below unfair only, because unfair bots don't DC to balance teams.

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