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  • Bots are blatantly maphacking

    Multiple times I've been out of sight, not recently near where bot wards are placed, and all of a sudden a 5-man bot train descends out of nowhere into random fucking juke spots.

    Am I hallucinating? This did not use to happen. It's shit like standing on a cliff overlooking the lane, the bots get within a certain range of you, and then they all suddenly charge at you. I've even had Jakiro throw a blind Ice Path with perfect accuracy.

    I thought the idea was bots aren't supposed to cheat outside of their gold/exp bonuses.

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    I'm also noticing that friendly bots are dumbed right down to the point where they are actually milling around doing nothing, or blocking escape paths so the enemy can gank you and them as well. The Sniper has an inventory full of attack speed and damage Items but his health regenerates faster than If he had the Heart of Tarasqe and even with 6 items in his inventory he manages to fit a scroll of teleport to jump all over the map seriously WTF??

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    • #3
      This is right. If they 5 ppl pushing, and you are too close them even if you are in fog, they are coming to gank you.

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      • #4
        Well pro-players are like this anyway. Good practice.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jimmydorry View Post
          Well pro-players are like this anyway. Good practice.
          that is not true at all, and bots are only ever supposed to have gold/exp hacks

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          • #6
            There is a debate on this forum on whether hacks are used. The 2 most frequent discussions are regarding maphacks and mana hacks. While I can't prove it as I didn't play a public game and had no access to the replay, I had a private game as KOTL where I drained the mana of a Dazzle bot (or at least I dropped it to a ridiculous level and I am pretty sure he was stunned at one point). The problem ? Just as my bot partner and I were gonna kill his partner he used Shallow Grave and saved him. (and no, he didn't use a Clarity in advance)
            As for maphacks, all I can say is this:
            - they always know which hero is the real one and which is an illusion (THE ONLY EXCEPTION is when using Shadow Demon; it's the only one that confuses them)
            - once the gank\push phase begins, I can never find a rune, and if I check the chat log, none of my bots seem to get them

            Mana hack discussions:
            - although not proven, there are some reports that Skeleton King always has mana for resurrection

            I'd say there are some hacks used but it seems only by the enemy team. The devs say there is no code to "help" them, except in Unfair mode where they get bonus XP and gold. Still, the bots seem to have some type of advantage at some points.
            Explanations on the normal, high and very high brackets in replays: here, here & here
            Why maphacks won't work in D2: here

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Nomad View Post
              I'd say there are some hacks used but it seems only by the enemy team. The devs say there is no code to "help" them, except in Unfair mode where they get bonus XP and gold. Still, the bots seem to have some type of advantage at some points.
              There is no code to intentionally help them. The problem occurs because the bots are running on the system itself, as such they have access to all information, and the task of the developers is to make sure they don't actually utilize this. Obviously, there's some holes in there though, the mana hack being one of them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Nomad View Post
                There is a debate on this forum on whether hacks are used. The 2 most frequent discussions are regarding maphacks and mana hacks. While I can't prove it as I didn't play a public game and had no access to the replay, I had a private game as KOTL where I drained the mana of a Dazzle bot (or at least I dropped it to a ridiculous level and I am pretty sure he was stunned at one point). The problem ? Just as my bot partner and I were gonna kill his partner he used Shallow Grave and saved him. (and no, he didn't use a Clarity in advance)
                As for maphacks, all I can say is this:
                - they always know which hero is the real one and which is an illusion (THE ONLY EXCEPTION is when using Shadow Demon; it's the only one that confuses them)
                - once the gank\push phase begins, I can never find a rune, and if I check the chat log, none of my bots seem to get them

                Mana hack discussions:
                - although not proven, there are some reports that Skeleton King always has mana for resurrection

                I'd say there are some hacks used but it seems only by the enemy team. The devs say there is no code to "help" them, except in Unfair mode where they get bonus XP and gold. Still, the bots seem to have some type of advantage at some points.
                Rise of the Machines, I'd say. Rise of the Machines.

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                • #9
                  They certainly behave very strange why you are invis and moving around them. They 100% know you are there, their behaviour changes but they dont throw out blind dust and sentries at least. But you can clearly see the change in behaviour if you start moving invis around their group
                  VOLVO PLZ FIX

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