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[Confirmed] Damaging Abaddon in Borrowed Time does not trigger several damage effects

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  • [Confirmed] Damaging Abaddon in Borrowed Time does not trigger several damage effects

    1. Get Lord of Avernus with HoT and Borrowed Time
    2. Activate Borrowed Time
    3. Damage him

    Result: Heart does not go into Cooldown
    Expected Result: Heart of Tarrasque should be disabled even when he in Borrowed Time
    „Die Kinder von heute kennen kein Vaterunser, dafür aber Deinemudder.“

  • #2
    Damage from other heroes disable HoT, so technically abaddon is not getting any damage from other heroes in borrowed time?
    I like to do stupid stuff even when i know it's stupid.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ShadowReturns View Post
      Damage from other heroes disable HoT, so technically abaddon is not getting any damage from other heroes in borrowed time?
      Correct. The same thing why TA had dagger not disabled when hitting her with Refraction on. They tried to implement absorbs "correctly", not as pseudo heals, causing tons of wrong interactions.
      @li.lo: does dagger get disabled?
      If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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      • #4
        they fixed it for Blink and Urn but forgot about HoT (and Tranquil →maybe a fix)

        Edit: Are there any other Spells like KotL's Recall which are depending on enemy damage?
        Last edited by li.lo; 07-16-2013, 03:13 AM.
        „Die Kinder von heute kennen kein Vaterunser, dafür aber Deinemudder.“

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        • #5
          Originally posted by li.lo View Post
          they fixed it for Blink and Urn but forgot about HoT (and Tranquil →maybe a fix)

          Edit: Are there any other Spells like KotL's Recall which are depending on enemy damage?
          how does cold snap work atm?

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          • #6
            Invoker's Cold Snap and Some Amplification dont trigger while in Borrowed Time

            Edit:
            Orchid's (was reported actually), Chen's, Shadow Demon's Amplification do not work
            Undying's, MoM's, Sticky Napalm's, Skywrath's Amplification are fine
            Rubick with Borrowed Time and Sprint is fine.

            Edit2: Sticky Napalm deals damage in 2 instances and no matter the damage was
            Last edited by li.lo; 07-16-2013, 05:09 AM.
            „Die Kinder von heute kennen kein Vaterunser, dafür aber Deinemudder.“

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            • #7
              hmm, maybe cold snap is intended, but i see no reason like half of the amplification doesnt work.

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              • #8
                added to sticky.
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                • #9
                  The only Amplification which suprised me was Sticky Napalm.

                  Either Sticky Napalm's Amplification damage should keep its interaction and therefore Penitence/Soul Catcher should be changed

                  or Sticky Napalm's Amplification damage should not trigger and Penitence/Soul Catcher can hold their behaviour.
                  „Die Kinder von heute kennen kein Vaterunser, dafür aber Deinemudder.“

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by li.lo View Post
                    The only Amplification which suprised me was Sticky Napalm.

                    Either Sticky Napalm's Amplification damage should keep its interaction and therefore Penitence/Soul Catcher should be changed

                    or Sticky Napalm's Amplification damage should not trigger and Penitence/Soul Catcher can hold their behaviour.

                    If you look at it logically, all amplifications should still work. His ulti isn't actually a damage blocker like Refraction. All harm he would take get magically bend into heals for him.

                    And it's how it is in WC3.
                    Please, just call me buny.

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                    • #11
                      It seems so simple to code Borrowed Time just like it is in Dota 1: a pseudo-heal. It would fix most if not all of these problems we're having with BT.

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                      • #12
                        It'd fix all problems with all triggered heals. But it's valve...
                        Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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                        • #13
                          thought other damage block interactions are fine with Spells and items but apparently they aren't.

                          Buffs like Aphotic Shield, Pipe Barrier, Refraction, Living Armor, Borrowed Time, Krakenshell, Vanguard... need to test this laters preventing Spells/Items from going into cooldown or triggering.

                          Would be better if the Title gets changed to something like
                          Damage Block abilities prevent several damage effect triggers
                          Last edited by li.lo; 08-23-2013, 08:02 AM.
                          „Die Kinder von heute kennen kein Vaterunser, dafür aber Deinemudder.“

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                          • #14
                            Kraken shell and vanguard generally should, because it's based off a damage threshhold (generally) not an actual damage instance.
                            Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wyn-Ryder View Post
                              Kraken shell and vanguard generally should, because it's based off a damage threshhold (generally) not an actual damage instance.
                              Pipe also.

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