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[Intended] Tinker's Rearm bypassing Disabled Dagger and Heart of Tarrasque

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    [Intended] Tinker's Rearm bypassing Disabled Dagger and Heart of Tarrasque

    I just had a Tinker blink away form me in this game:

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/245093504

    I don't know the exact ingame time, but i guess it wuld be faster to just try and replicate with two people.

    Description: I've hit Tinker during his rearm. After rearm he blinked. I am pretty sure that he didn't blink during the slight delay.

    Expected Behaviour: In DotA the Icon (or more likely the entire Item) changed for 3 seconds. Thus it was impossible to rearm through this. It also makes sense, since disabling something for three seonds means something different than setting its cooldown to 3.

    Edit by Buny: Same thing goes for Heart of Tarrasque. It does get refreshed, but shouldn't get.

    Tranquil Boots get refreshed, too, but their effect stays disabled. So this one is just a visual bug.
    Last edited by bu3ny; 02-07-2014, 01:29 PM. Reason: Updated
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  • #2
    I'm not going to watch the replay, but my bet is that the blink order was delayed until after the rearm and it went ahead anyway, which is a glitch I think was reported before.

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    • #3
      Just tested it in a Practice lobby (because i didn't think about cheat commands earlier):

      Rearm bypasses the dagger disabling! If my own confirmation is enough.

      Same goes for refresher Orb.
      Last edited by Cocofang; 07-17-2013, 09:18 AM.

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      • #4
        Just tested this, rearm does in fact get rid of the 3 second blink dagger disable
        Maybe this is actually intentional, since the 3 seconds acts as a pseudo-cooldown

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JuanCCC View Post
          Just tested this, rearm does in fact get rid of the 3 second blink dagger disable
          Maybe this is actually intentional, since the 3 seconds acts as a pseudo-cooldown
          I also tested it in DotA 1 :P

          If it is intentional, then it is an intentional change. In DotA 1 it got completely disabled (swapped with a placeholder item until you didn't take dmg for 3 seconds). Additionally it explicitly states that it gets disabled (and not put onto cooldown)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cocofang View Post
            I also tested it in DotA 1 :P

            If it is intentional, then it is an intentional change. In DotA 1 it got completely disabled (swapped with a placeholder item until you didn't take dmg for 3 seconds). Additionally it explicitly states that it gets disabled (and not put onto cooldown)
            really doubt it's intentional but more of an oversight from developers

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            • #7
              added to sticky.
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              • #8
                Pfah. Can you also test Refresher, as well as Heart and Linken's while you're at it?

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                • #9
                  Refresher isn't subject toRearm, obviously.

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                  • #10
                    I meant if Refresher acts the same as Rearm in this case.

                    Heart and Linken's use the same behavior as Dagger in DotA 1.

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                    • #11
                      Linkens doesn't refresh. I tested that before I'm pretty sure...

                      I wouldn't be surprised at all if it worked for heart.
                      Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by imxtrabored View Post
                        I meant if Refresher acts the same as Rearm in this case.

                        Heart and Linken's use the same behavior as Dagger in DotA 1.
                        Rearm will take a heart off of cooldown (along with a disabled blink dagger as mentioned above)
                        Refresher will take a disabled blink dagger off cooldown and put a heart off cooldown as well
                        Linken's is not refreshed by either

                        Edit: This is making me think it might be an intended change, but an oversight also seems like a possibility
                        Last edited by JuanCCC; 07-18-2013, 04:37 AM.

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                        • #13
                          this one is severe to me.
                          sigpic <-- My work is done, if this gets implemented
                          Also: つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give Soloqueue!
                          Need some incentive to start a match of dota?
                          http://getdotastats.com/sig/87346642.png
                          Originally posted by DarkLite
                          Valve has abandoned the game! The game is now safe to leave.
                          No statistics will be recorded.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bashtime View Post
                            this one is severe to me.
                            Just gotta wait for a pro to abuse it and then have it fly around reddit..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jam3972 View Post
                              Just gotta wait for a pro to abuse it and then have it fly around reddit..
                              It already pisses me when I play vs these retarded blink dagon tinkers. You strike him he rearms and blinks altho you have hit him. It's just unfair.
                              sigpic <-- My work is done, if this gets implemented
                              Also: つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give Soloqueue!
                              Need some incentive to start a match of dota?
                              http://getdotastats.com/sig/87346642.png
                              Originally posted by DarkLite
                              Valve has abandoned the game! The game is now safe to leave.
                              No statistics will be recorded.

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