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[Confirmed] All Random is broken.

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  • [Confirmed] All Random is broken.

    Randomed Morphling in All Random, clicked Repick, and Re-randomed Morphling.

    Fucking seriously?

  • #2
    How is that proof of brokenness

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    • #3
      You shouldn't be able to re-random the hero you randomed. That's just silly.

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      • #4
        If a hero returns to the pick pool after repicking (what's currently happens AFAIK) it's not silly but RANDOM
        If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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        • #5
          You can't re-random, you're just spinning the wheel. It's a soft random.

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          • #6
            6.78 Changelogs
            * Repicking a randomed hero now re-adds the hero to the pool
            So it is possible for you to get the same hero when repicking in all random. Close this thread.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by func_door View Post
              You can't re-random, you're just spinning the wheel. It's a soft random.
              That's for All Pick, not for All Random.

              It does seem like an odd interaction, though. To me it seems more logical to repick and THEN add it back to the hero pool.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Arxos View Post
                That's for All Pick, not for All Random.

                It does seem like an odd interaction, though. To me it seems more logical to repick and THEN add it back to the hero pool.
                This is what I'm saying. All random repicks are just re-randoms. You shouldn't be forced to re-random with the same hero you repicked into the pool, at least, to the same person.

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                • #9
                  I was willing to accept that this was a fluke when I tried to repick Death Prophet and got Death Prophet...but I don't repick often (because I like most heroes), and when I repicked today for the second time in the last two months, I got the hero I was repicking from. 2/2 times that I have repicked in All Random have given me the same hero with 500 gold. Not cool! That can't merely be bad luck, the odds against this happening are incredible.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NonToxic View Post
                    I was willing to accept that this was a fluke when I tried to repick Death Prophet and got Death Prophet...but I don't repick often (because I like most heroes), and when I repicked today for the second time in the last two months, I got the hero I was repicking from. 2/2 times that I have repicked in All Random have given me the same hero with 500 gold. Not cool! That can't merely be bad luck, the odds against this happening are incredible.
                    Yeah, Valve does it on purpose. Bad luck. google.com/#q=random
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                    • #11
                      in dota1 you cant repick same hero

                      this is a bug

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blaity View Post
                        in dota1 you cant repick same hero

                        this is a bug
                        Since 6.78, heros get back into the pool due to repicking in Dota 1 too.
                        If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kryil- View Post
                          Since 6.78, heros get back into the pool due to repicking in Dota 1 too.
                          yes i mean in dota 1 they can be chosen by somebody else but not the same person

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by blaity View Post
                            yes i mean in dota 1 they can be chosen by somebody else but not the same person
                            Do you have a source for that? At least I can't find one, this could be solved then.
                            EDIT: Does someone have a proper Jass-Dump? Got it from here: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639324 and unless I'm mistaken, units never reenter the pool (booleans001 seems to be the array to track picked heros, and it's NEVER set to false apart from initialization :/ ).
                            Last edited by Kryil-; 10-20-2013, 01:36 PM.
                            If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                            • #15
                              I was thinking there was something off with the units being re-added to the pool as well. I mentioned this to Wyn-Ryder, who said that he might ask someone else to double-check my theory.

                              I can make you another dump of the latest 6.78c JASS, but I am almost certain this part is the same. (You would also have to recommend to me somewhere to upload my dump.)

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