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[Fixed] Weird Courier + Syllabear's Spirit Bear interaction

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  • [Fixed] Weird Courier + Syllabear's Spirit Bear interaction



    Summary:
    Courier benefits from items and can use them

    Repro Steps:
    1. Pick Sylla Bear
    2. Summon Spirit Bear
    3. Buy courier, pop it with Spirit Bear

    Result:
    Items are functional on courier. In order to use items which require mana you have to build a mana pool.
    Boots give + movement speed. You can use Dagon in e.g. combination with soul ring.

    Cosmetic item (for courier) do not apply.

    Expected Result:
    It is a standard courier with limitation. Same behaviour as when being popped with a hero.


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    Originally posted by Noya View Post
    This is not completely true. In DotA, there were some items that were specifically coded to not be able to used them from the courier, but some bonus where still applied.

    Originally posted by http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/shareditems
    Certain items have some of their abilities disabled to prevent abuse while being carried by an Animal Courier or a Flying Courier.
    List of items that have some of their abilities disabled while being carried by a courier
    Helm of the Dominator (Dominate)
    Armlet of Mordiggian (Unholy Strength)
    Shiva's Guard (Arctic Blast)
    Gem of True Sight (True Sight)
    Also Midas has a Courier Version in DotA, to prevent obvious abuse.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uCvypTXxuw
    (Last Midas was bought from a Courier that was activaded from a Courier (courierception :P), notice how it is muted as usual).

    Shivas on Dota 2 Couriers:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwsz8K7wwuM
    (To add, once the Soul Ring debuff runs out, the courier retains his 150 maximum manapool)
    Last edited by GermanViet; 09-14-2013, 10:29 AM.
    James "2GD" Harding's career as a Dota 2 host on Valve events
    * 25.02.16 - † 26.02.16
    Spoiler: 



  • #2
    yep can confirm this

    repo:
    give chicken to spirit bear --> use chicken from spirit bear -->all items are enabled

    expected result :

    any item is still disabled

    (random fact: it doesnt use a model if you have equipped one (cosmetic))
    If you find spelling errors, you are free to take them.

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    • #3
      In DotA 1, the Courier would benefit from all items on it that were owned by the owner of the Courier, except for a few items that were given a courier edition. Boots worked.

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      • #4
        Isn't this the correct interaction?

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        • #5
          I was going to report this in particular because it can lead to a Huge exploit regarding to Hand of Midas.

          Repro Steps:
          - Pick Sylabear
          - Buy many couriers
          - Buy 1 hand of Midas for every courier
          - Use every hand of Midas on each courier.

          Result: Profit

          Expected Result: Courier doesn't have Courier Version for Midas, and they don't share cooldown either.

          Video soon.
          ModDota | My GitHub Profile | My Project's Page

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          • #6
            noyo nice find btw can you check dagon and soul ring? because its fun
            If you find spelling errors, you are free to take them.

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            • #7
              Thank you. I leave it to you then. My computer is too bad to let me record stuff x).
              It is shown in the video that it is possible to dagon.

              Chances are it is not intended.

              Couriers weren't meant for participating in combat. They were meant to merely deliver items.
              James "2GD" Harding's career as a Dota 2 host on Valve events
              * 25.02.16 - † 26.02.16
              Spoiler: 


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              • #8
                well i remember dota 1 fun mode "currier fight (?) (or wtf that was called) were every player got his own currier and fight for the most kills (like with heros)

                fun times fun times ...
                If you find spelling errors, you are free to take them.

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                • #9
                  http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...urier%2C+dagon

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GermanViet View Post
                    Chances are it is not intended.

                    Couriers weren't meant for participating in combat. They were meant to merely deliver items.
                    This is not completely true. In DotA, there were some items that were specifically coded to not be able to used them from the courier, but some bonus where still applied.

                    Originally posted by http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/shareditems
                    Certain items have some of their abilities disabled to prevent abuse while being carried by an Animal Courier or a Flying Courier.
                    List of items that have some of their abilities disabled while being carried by a courier
                    Helm of the Dominator (Dominate)
                    Armlet of Mordiggian (Unholy Strength)
                    Shiva's Guard (Arctic Blast)
                    Gem of True Sight (True Sight)
                    Also Midas has a Courier Version in DotA, to prevent obvious abuse.

                    (Last Midas was bought from a Courier that was activaded from a Courier (courierception :P), notice how it is muted as usual).

                    Shivas on Dota 2 Couriers:

                    (To add, once the Soul Ring debuff runs out, the courier retains his 150 maximum manapool)

                    I'll provide WC3 videos next. In the meantime, brb smurf Lone Druid with 10 Midases
                    ModDota | My GitHub Profile | My Project's Page

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                    • #11
                      For some reason it was removed from bug list. Or I cannot find it there.

                      edit: Oh ok thanks Noya.

                      If you don't mind I put your post into first post.
                      James "2GD" Harding's career as a Dota 2 host on Valve events
                      * 25.02.16 - † 26.02.16
                      Spoiler: 


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GermanViet View Post
                        If you don't mind I put your post into first post.
                        No problem

                        Just tested and in DotA you CAN activate couriers from Spirit Bear, but courier summon has 5 mana cost and Soul Ring doesn't give them mana unless you buy Mana Booster on them first.

                        Real fix is: Implement "Courier Version" of items properly.
                        ModDota | My GitHub Profile | My Project's Page

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                        • #13
                          As long as couriers stay unable to benifit from any item in Dota2, I'll add this to the list.

                          Items being unmuted when the courier was activated by the Spirit Bear clearly seems like a bug to me.
                          Please, just call me buny.

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                          • #14
                            Is this bug confirmed to have been fixed in a recent patch? I just tried to reproduce it while clowning around in a test server and even after using the Spirit Bear to use the courier, and then passing a soul ring from the Bear to the courier, the soul ring had a red mouseover text that said "this item is muted."

                            The bug seems to still be on the list but unless there's a different method for doing it nowadays it seems like this got ninja fixed in some recent patch without anyone noticing.

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                            • #15
                              volo u so bad

                              A true demon can never die.

                              I dare you to show me your bones.

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