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[Intended?] Linkens Sphere not blocking zeus ult

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  • [Intended?] Linkens Sphere not blocking zeus ult

    Well, first thread here, sorry for the bad english, hope u understood.

    I was playing with QoP vs Bots , and an enemy was Zeus, so I buyed Likens to block his ult, but it dint work.


    To repro this, create a private game, select "enable cheats", pick a hero ( i've tried this with QoP and PotM ), -gold 11111111 and buy Likens, -createhero zuus enemy, -levelupbots 25, then use zeus ult

    Result :
    Likens will ignore the ult, so it will damage the target.

    Expected :

    It should activate likens and block the ult damage, but not the vision around the target, as say this guide : http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-c...linkens-sphere

  • #2
    Zeus ult is not targeted, and Linken's specifically states it is only supposed to block targeted spells. It was blocked in DotA because of the odd way Zeus ultimate was cast (it used dummy units, each of which cast a targeted spell, IIRC).

    Many, many interactions between Linken's and abilities were strange and unintended in DotA. This just fixes some of that oddity. Probably intended and not a bug.

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    • #3
      This is Wrong, Zeus ult should be blocked:

      futther information:
      http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-c...linkens-sphere
      Originally posted by Ttempest
      Duh... its the IceFrog dude. Kinda like Chuck Norris just in Dota.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Equal View Post
        This is Wrong, Zeus ult should be blocked:

        futther information:
        http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-c...linkens-sphere
        id say that its bugged in wc3. Either that or the desciption is way off.

        currently says "blocks most TARGETED spells"
        Should say;" blocks certain spells (check website)"

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        • #5
          You could view zeus's ult as "targetting" all 5 enemy heroes. It's not a true "Area of Effect" spell.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by walkingcarpet View Post
            You could view zeus's ult as "targetting" all 5 enemy heroes. It's not a true "Area of Effect" spell.
            hmm yea true ^^

            but readnig that linkens guide makes it obvious that linkens in wc3 works completly random. Some spells trigger it without it blocking anything. some spells are only partially blocked.

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            • #7
              But in this case, it makes sense if the spell is blocked, although zeus is not targetting directly, he still aims the heroes from far.

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              • #8
                Make more sense if only spells that are click-target are blockable imo.

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                • #9
                  i know for a fact that his ult was blocked by linkens as recently as a week ago, if its no longer being blocked its either a new bug, or something around your test case against bots that's causing it.

                  try it without cheats on imo.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sterls View Post
                    i know for a fact that his ult was blocked by linkens as recently as a week ago, if its no longer being blocked its either a new bug, or something around your test case against bots that's causing it.

                    try it without cheats on imo.
                    Why would simply enabling cheats change part of the core mechanics of the way items operate? Do you have a match ID where this occurred? I checked several weeks ago and I just checked right now. Both Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning will be blocked by Linken's, so you may have been confusing the ult being blocked with one of those.

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                    • #11
                      In my opinion Linken's should block 1 magic spell, period. No limitations of target or non-target spells.

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                      • #12
                        Well in d1, it was a targeted spell, creating dummy units to cast that spell, I think this is an intended fix.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by trena99 View Post
                          I think this is an intended fix.
                          I am not so sure about this.
                          I think that linkens should block zeus ultimate as well.
                          Would be great to get any clarification from Valve / IceFrog.

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                          • #14
                            I also feel that linkins should block zeus ulti. It specifically targets enemy heroes, it doesn't just blanket nuke the map. No creep/neutrals are affected.

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                            • #15
                              If I remember correctly, it also blocks Earthshaker's spell (Fissure I think). I don't see it much of a stretch to block Zeus' ulti too
                              Explanations on the normal, high and very high brackets in replays: here, here & here
                              Why maphacks won't work in D2: here

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