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    Pudge's Meathook + Chen's Holy Persuasion Combo (in contrast to old combos such as Wisp's Relocate + Meathook) added 30.05.2012

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    Glyph of Fortification now blocks every damage by 100% instead of reducing it to ~0.5 damage. (discussion)
    Please, just call me buny.

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    • Heal + Astral doesnt work anymore.
      In Dota, Harbringer could increase the healing time of a salve by using Astral Imprisonment on the hero. Thus increasing the heal by 40%
      And i think that Juggernauts healing ward doesnt heal hidden units in Dota 2.
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      Dota 2 sounds and effects are much easier to distinguish.
      e.g.
      Ezalor casting illuminate has a channeling sound, which can be heard, even if Ezalor isn´t on your screen. (this clearly affects gameplay)
      Slarks essence shift animation, shows if you hit the real hero or just an illusion. (i think this wasnt the case in Dota)
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      A hero can leave the game for 5 minutes thus giving all his gold to his allies, then can reenter the game with 0 gold, which is some sort of gold share.
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      HP bars make it easier to calculate enemy HP, e.g. a 700 nuke kills a hero with 2 bars (500HP), which is an advantage for Axe and other nuker.

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      • Originally posted by Davanos View Post
        Heal + Astral doesnt work anymore.
        In Dota, Harbringer could increase the healing time of a salve by using Astral Imprisonment on the hero. Thus increasing the heal by 40%
        And i think that Juggernauts healing ward doesnt heal hidden units in Dota 2.
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        Dota 2 sounds and effects are much easier to distinguish.
        e.g.
        Ezalor casting illuminate has a channeling sound, which can be heard, even if Ezalor isn´t on your screen. (this clearly affects gameplay)
        Slarks essence shift animation, shows if you hit the real hero or just an illusion. (i think this wasnt the case in Dota)
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        A hero can leave the game for 5 minutes thus giving all his gold to his allies, then can reenter the game with 0 gold, which is some sort of gold share.
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        HP bars make it easier to calculate enemy HP, e.g. a 700 nuke kills a hero with 2 bars (500HP), which is an advantage for Axe and other nuker.
        1st. This is connected with the pause function in DotA1 and goes for multiple spells, not just Astral Imprisonment. The pause function missing in Dota2 is known and in the bug list.

        2nd. Sounds and animations revealing too much gets fixed over the time. It's a slow process, but it's happening.

        3rd. That's how it is in DotA1 aswell, with the only difference that it doesn't need the -unlock command anymore.

        4th. Yes, that's an intended design. Not really needed to be stated in the list.
        Please, just call me buny.

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        • Originally posted by bu3ny View Post
          1st. This is connected with the pause function in DotA1 and goes for multiple spells, not just Astral Imprisonment. The pause function missing in Dota2 is known and in the bug list.

          3rd. That's how it is in DotA1 aswell, with the only difference that it doesn't need the -unlock command anymore.
          The missing AI-exploit is a bug ? Then i hope they fix it in 2080.

          The difference on the 3rd is that in dota 1 you cant reconnect after that.
          In other words you share your gold with your carries, but you loose all your gold + 5 mins playtime.

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          • Originally posted by Davanos View Post
            The missing AI-exploit is a bug ? Then i hope they fix it in 2080.

            No, we don't know if it's intentionally kept out, or not, so can't tell if bug or not.
            Please, just call me buny.

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            • is being able to lifeleech from abba ult still possible in dota 1? if so, since its not in dota 2 is this change intended?

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              • ^Refer to the link in my signature. I honestly don't know if it's intended or not, we'd need confirmation from a core tester or a dev.
                Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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                • that doesnt make sense to me in case of borrowed time. abba only get healed when he effectively takes damage. if he takes damage from hitting, you should be able to lifeleech from that as well then. at least when its called pseudo evasion. either its evasion so the hero doesnt take damage from it, but then cant get healed from it as well. or he takes it and get healed by that amount and when he that happens, it should automatically mean you can leech life from it, since you are that damage dealer.

                  void: takes dmg, gets healed --> no dmg taken, cant lifesteal from that
                  omni: ulti --> enemies deal no damage, nothing lifesteal from enemies can come from
                  spec/bristle: incoming damage gets reduced, only from that reduced damage can life be stolen from

                  abba: heros deal damage, he gets healed by that amount, no damage can be stolen from that?
                  if you argue that he actually takes no damage then he also couldnt get healed logically speaking.

                  so borrowed time behaves inconsistenly in this regard.
                  Last edited by Thunderbolt; 10-12-2013, 07:11 PM.

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                  • Sorry for the late reply. If you want it changed you can try to convince the devs by opening a discussion thread in mechanics and brainstorming.
                    Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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                    • Tiny can Toss to his own units in Dota 2 whereas this is not possible in Dota 1. Is this an intended change as well?

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                      • Duel victories grant flat bonus damage that is not affected by % damage modifiers (bloodrage, empower, atrophy aura etc etc) in dota 2,
                        but in wc3 dota, Duel victories grant bonus base damage that can be affected by % damage modifiers (i.e. increasing the base damage of the winner)

                        bug or intended?

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                        • Why doom does not prohibit work passivki legion Commanderie??

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                          • Originally posted by Felini444 View Post
                            Why doom does not prohibit work passivki legion Commanderie??
                            Wat.

                            If you mean Doom does not disable Moment of Courage, then it is differently coded, much like Counter Helix. Doom cannot disable either of them.

                            If you mean Doom should disable it, then FITE ME U SCRUB! ( a.k.a Legion Commander as a hero is created to work under her Duel, and her Duel is a ladder Doom, so ....)
                            Last edited by Legion Commander; 02-03-2014, 01:00 PM.

                            Originally posted by Phoenix.
                            2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
                            2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
                            Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


                            Credits to Phoenix.

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                            • Some of these so-called 'fixes' made Dota 2 a boring game.

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                              • so create a thread or add a post to the linked ones and state your well argumented objections
                                „Die Kinder von heute kennen kein Vaterunser, dafür aber Deinemudder.“

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