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  • Taking rightclick damage in Etheral form

    This happened twice
    1) with ghost scepter vs a furion with a stigian
    2) with pugnas decrep, taking damage from impetus

    Note that both damages were not full, it was more like 40 50%. But still, the unit should be immune

    13566466 , at the end

    Originally posted by bu3ny View Post
    made some tests.
    Impetus shouldn't damage etherealed units at all, even when the projectile was already flying before the target got etherealed. Same for Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom.
    Burning Spear shouldn't get applied on etherealed units when the projectile was already fyling. But when you had Burning Spear stacks already, it should get amplified.

    So the only bugs are:
    Impetus, Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom damaging ethereal units.
    Burning Spear getting applied/raising stack on ethereal units.


    Rest works just like in DotA1.
    Last edited by DLRevan; 04-29-2012, 09:48 AM.

  • #2
    There was no Furion in that game. Impetus is Magic damage and can be targeted instead of auto attacked.

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    • #3
      ^But you can't target ethereal units. You can attack when you self are in ethereal form via manuel cast, but you can't target other ethereal units.
      Last edited by bu3ny; 04-29-2012, 03:17 AM.
      Please, just call me buny.

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      • #4
        Orbs work agains etherial forms afaik .From stygian you wont get dmg but the -armor effect.But you can take dmg from sange maim,mjolnir chain lightning(in effect any dmg\effect that is not 100% only physical will work)

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        • #5
          made some tests.
          Impetus shouldn't damage etherealed units at all, even when the projectile was already flying before the target got etherealed. Same for Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom.
          Burning Spear shouldn't get applied on etherealed units when the projectile was already fyling. But when you had Burning Spear stacks already, it should get amplified.
          Searing Arrows shouldn't damage at all.
          Poison Attack gets applied on ethereal units when the projectile was already flying, and its damage gets amplified.


          So the only bugs are:
          Impetus, Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom damaging ethereal units.
          Burning Spear getting applied/raising stack on ethereal units.


          Rest works just like in DotA1.
          Please, just call me buny.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bu3ny View Post
            Impetus, Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom damaging ethereal units.
            I played hundreds of games with Destroyer and never was able to Arcane Orb an ethereal unit ...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bu3ny View Post
              So the only bugs are:
              Impetus, Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom damaging ethereal units.
              Originally posted by Typhox View Post
              I played hundreds of games with Destroyer and never was able to Arcane Orb an ethereal unit ...
              read again.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by blash365 View Post
                read again.
                Yes. He said that you can arcane orb ethereal units and that it shouldn't be like this.
                However, I can't arcane orb ethereal units.
                What is there not to understand?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bu3ny View Post
                  made some tests.
                  Impetus shouldn't damage etherealed units at all, even when the projectile was already flying before the target got etherealed. Same for Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom.
                  Burning Spear shouldn't get applied on etherealed units when the projectile was already fyling. But when you had Burning Spear stacks already, it should get amplified.
                  Searing Arrows shouldn't damage at all.
                  Poison Attack gets applied on ethereal units when the projectile was already flying, and its damage gets amplified.
                  Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                  Yes. He said that you can arcane orb ethereal units and that it shouldn't be like this.
                  However, I can't arcane orb ethereal units.
                  What is there not to understand?
                  read bolded part.
                  Please, just call me buny.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                    Yes. He said that you can arcane orb ethereal units and that it shouldn't be like this.
                    However, I can't arcane orb ethereal units.
                    What is there not to understand?
                    i think it was/is possible to manually cast the orbs on eth units. thats what the bug report refers to.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by blash365 View Post
                      i think it was/is possible to manually cast the orbs on eth units. thats what the bug report refers to.
                      As I said, I played 150 games with OD. If that was possible, I'd know it I think.
                      It's probably that if a unit gets ethereal while the projectile already flies, it makes some damage. It's hard to notice and quite rare.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bu3ny View Post
                        Searing Arrows shouldn't damage at all.
                        Poison Attack gets applied on ethereal units when the projectile was already flying, and its damage gets amplified.
                        So Impetus, Arcane Orb, Glaives and Burning Spears aren't working properly.

                        But, just to be clear, searing arrows and poison attack are working correctly?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blash365 View Post
                          i think it was/is possible to manually cast the orbs on eth units. thats what the bug report refers to.
                          Nope, that works just fine.

                          Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                          It's probably that if a unit gets ethereal while the projectile already flies, it makes some damage. It's hard to notice and quite rare.
                          Exactly. You start a modified attack, targets becomes ethereal, projectile damages target. But only the bonus dmg, not the hero's phsyical damage. It shouldn't damage at all, when the attack was a Glaive of Wisdom, Arcane Orb, Impetus, Frost Arrows, or Searing Arrows. Only Burning Spear and Poison Attack's damage should get applied and amplified.
                          Originally posted by DLRevan View Post
                          So Impetus, Arcane Orb, Glaives and Burning Spears aren't working properly.

                          But, just to be clear, searing arrows and poison attack are working correctly?
                          It's Impetus, Arcane Orb and Glaives of Wisdom.
                          Burning Spear has another inconsistancy. In DotA1, it won't increase the/add a stack, when the target becomes etherealed before the projectile hits. But that's a really tiny issue.
                          Only Viper's works 100% like in DotA1.
                          Please, just call me buny.

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                          • #14
                            Added your info to the OP and updated sticky, thanks for testing it.
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                            • #15
                              I'm not sure if intended, but I think this also happens to Windrun. At least I had a lot of complaining Windrunner's (as enemies) lately :P

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