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  • [Fixed] AA's ultimate sometime canceling diabolic edict

    In some case, ice blast is canceling diabolic edict when leshrac die
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moq4X...ature=youtu.be


    It seems tricky, cause it doesn't work all the time (in the vid, only 1 on 3)

    My guess goes to, if cold feet put leshrac in threshold % hp and thus kill him, diabolic edict vanish

    But I wasn't able to reproduce it a lot (cann't even watch my own training game, in which it happened like 15 times on 16)
    Last edited by miambox; 08-22-2012, 04:56 PM.

  • #2
    is it reproducable if you are out of range of DE and run into it once leshrac is dead?
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    • #3
      Could this be related to how culling blade was stopping edict and epicenter?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by blash365 View Post
        is it reproducable if you are out of range of DE and run into it once leshrac is dead?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCuD5...ature=youtu.be

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        • #5
          Confirmed.



          It occurs if AA ult deals lethal dmg. On videos presented by OP when it doesn't stop I guess it's other source of dmg that kills him (like cold feet, or normal attacks; can't say without combat log) (I did tests with dagon 5 dealing lethal blow (under aa ult effect) and it did not stop)

          My setup: max hp lesh was: 5173, aa lvl1 ult
          [14:26.90] Plague Ward hits Leshrac for 3 damage (713->710).
          [14:27.00] Leshrac receives Frostbitten debuff from Ancient Apparition.
          [14:28.04] Ancient Apparition hits Leshrac with Ice Blast for 9 damage (711->702).
          [14:28.40] Plague Ward hits Leshrac for 2 damage (701->699).
          [14:29.04] Ancient Apparition hits Leshrac with Ice Blast for 9 damage (699->690).
          [14:29.90] Plague Ward hits Leshrac for 3 damage (690->687).
          [14:29.97] Leshrac hits Pudge with Diabolic Edict for 5 damage (2506->2501).
          [14:29.97] Leshrac receives Diabolic Edict buff from Leshrac.
          [14:30.04] Ancient Apparition hits Leshrac with Ice Blast for 9 damage (686->677).
          [14:30.24] Leshrac hits Pudge with Diabolic Edict for 5 damage (2502->2497).
          [14:30.50] Leshrac receives Sacrifice buff from Leshrac.
          [14:30.50] Leshrac hits Pudge with Diabolic Edict for 5 damage (2498->2493).
          [14:30.74] Leshrac hits Pudge with Diabolic Edict for 5 damage (2494->2489).
          [14:31.00] Leshrac hits Pudge with Diabolic Edict for 5 damage (2490->2485).
          [14:31.04] Ancient Apparition hits Leshrac with Ice Blast for 9 damage (527->518).
          [14:31.24] Leshrac hits Pudge with Diabolic Edict for 5 damage (2486->2481).
          [14:31.40] Plague Ward hits Leshrac for 2 damage (517->515). // now lesh is killed as 515/5173 -

          [14:31.44] Leshrac loses Sacrifice buff.
          [14:31.44] Leshrac loses Diabolic Edict buff.
          [14:31.44] Leshrac loses Frostbitten debuff.
          [14:31.44] Plague Ward hits Leshrac with Ice Blast for 515 damage.
          [14:31.44] Leshrac is killed by Plague Ward's Ice Blast. // : - )
          // for sanity I will check dota1 but I'd be greatly surprised if same situation would occur.
          // e2:Had some troubles with that, but I didn't found a way in dota1 to cancel edict this way.
          Last edited by adrianlegg; 08-23-2012, 04:49 AM.
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          • #6
            added to sticky.
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            • #7
              Note that it has to be the dot of ult and not the "impact damage of ult" which has to kill leshrac (3rd part of my vid)

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              • #8
                @miambox

                That's also not very precise.
                My conclusion was it has to be not 'dot' (by which I understand "Frostbite Damage 12.5/20/32"), neither impact dmg, but death due to "HP for Kill: 10%/11%/12%" effect, which might proc after any dmg which is not lethal.
                In combat log I provided You can see it's veno wards that deals last instance of dmg, after which shatter effect occurs, purging DE buff.
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                • #9
                  yeah my bad, i didn't look closely enough on the hp of my third part of the vid (and since for unknown reason, i cann't watch my replay, i cann't check combat log), I thought that the impact putted leshrac in very low life, thus the dot had no time do deal damage, but actually, impact osed leshrac (thus no threshold damage, no "purge").


                  Btw, i'd like to know your thought about the second part of the vid,
                  it is, ult impact lesh, lesh cast edict, lesh die cause of threshold, edict isn't "purged"

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                  • #10
                    @miambox
                    454 (base hp) - 337 (450 Ice Blast lvl 3 * 0,75 (25% mgc rst)) - 24 (32 one tick *0,75) = 93
                    more then 54 (12% for Shatter effect)
                    I belive You killed him with normal attack having 131 dmg. (so theory stays the same as no shatter)
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                    • #11
                      Apparently same story with SK ult (thx for hint winxp):



                      I won't make new topic, as it's the same story - if SK dies to AA shatter effect, ult stops.
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                      • #12
                        maybe change it to "Ice Blast shatter stops spells that should work after death" ?

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                        • #13
                          as you can see other spells show the same issue.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by blash365 View Post
                            as you can see other spells show the same issue.
                            other spell show same issue from AA ulti, not Edict

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                            • #15
                              ooh. haha, silly me.
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