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[Confirmed] Illusions can't be denied

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  • [Confirmed] Illusions can't be denied

    Sorry if this has been posted before, but i wasn't able to find it in the common bugs list, intended fixes or using search.

    In dota1, you could deny allied illusions when they had less than 50% health, While in dota2 they can not be denied when below the 50% threshold.
    (i have not tested whether they follow the requirements for denying actual heroes- they may be deniable with gale/etc on them below 25%)

  • #2
    It doesn't sound like an engine limitation, but it does sound like a fix to me, as I don't see why you'd want to deny illusions.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arxos View Post
      It doesn't sound like an engine limitation, but it does sound like a fix to me, as I don't see why you'd want to deny illusions.
      Shadowfiend gaining souls from them is the only reason I can think of atm. Possibly BS feast as well? Don't play him much, so not sure.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by teen View Post
        Shadowfiend gaining souls from them is the only reason I can think of atm. Possibly BS feast as well? Don't play him much, so not sure.
        If you mean BS bloodbath, then no, it doesn't work with illusions.

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        • #5
          TA denying an illusion can result in fun too :P

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          • #6
            Getting rid of battlehunger. Baiting with an illusion etc. It has it's uses...
            Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wyn-Ryder View Post
              Getting rid of battlehunger. Baiting with an illusion etc. It has it's uses...
              Baiting wouldn't require you to deny the illusion would it? You're right on Battle Hunger though.

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              • #8
                Can someone confirm?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arxos View Post
                  Baiting wouldn't require you to deny the illusion would it? You're right on Battle Hunger though.
                  Making it lower hp to make it more juicy for the enemy is what I meant, but no biggy.

                  You can indeed deny illusions from below 50% hp as you can with normal creeps in WC3 DotA. I honestly haven't tried in Dota 2.
                  Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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                  • #10
                    No you can't deny illusions and this is terrible, denying illusions = removing battle hunger from yourself.
                    I once died with an illusion rune in bottle and having ~50 hp, bringing up the illusions and trying to deny them so the battle hunger buff gets removed did not work, and so I died.
                    And I can confirm that illusions can NOT be denied.

                    Adding to sticky.

                    Edit: moved to main page.
                    Last edited by trena99; 09-19-2012, 01:41 AM.
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                    • #11
                      I found a second bug in my tests: Killing illusions does not dispel battle hunger, though it should. Opening another report on that.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gyre View Post
                        If you mean BS bloodbath, then no, it doesn't work with illusions.
                        It used to work years ago, and I loved it. Illusion rune for BS was like a one-sided Regeneration rune.


                        Edit after 3 months: I want to word another semi-important thing that this bug prevents us from doing.
                        I remember denying my weak Phantom Lancer illusions on DotA, so that they wouldn't create further weak illusions and fill my Juxtapose limit.
                        Also denying the weakling opened up a slot on my illusion count, so I could create a strong one.

                        Also as Wyn has said, weakening an illusion to make it look more juicy to lure-decept enemies was also something we are missing right now due to this.
                        Last edited by ThoAppelsin; 01-20-2013, 08:47 AM.

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