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[Confirmed] Bane ulti wrong damage scale + missing tick on first use

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  • [Confirmed] Bane ulti wrong damage scale + missing tick on first use

    Previous bug with bane http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=27710
    But this is somehow going further:

    First time EVER to use lvl 1 ulti on an enemy gives only 4 damage instances
    [01:02.66] Pudge receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Bane.
    [01:03.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (2449->2374).
    [01:04.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (2378->2303).
    [01:05.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (2307->2232).
    [01:06.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (2235->2160).
    [01:08.36] Bane hits Pudge for 66 damage (2167->2101).

    Second time to use lvl 1 ulti on an enemy gives 5 damage instances
    [01:11.73] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (2114->2039).
    [01:11.73] Pudge receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Bane.
    [01:12.76] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (2043->1968).
    [01:13.76] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (1972->1897).
    [01:14.76] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (1900->1825).
    [01:15.76] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (1829->1754).
    [01:17.36] Bane hits Pudge for 66 damage (1761->1695).

    First time to use lvl 2 ulti on an enemy gives 5 damage instances. But the first tick does lvl 1 damage
    [01:20.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 75 damage (1707->1632).
    [01:20.69] Pudge receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Bane.
    [01:21.73] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (1635->1519).
    [01:22.73] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (1522->1406).
    [01:23.73] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (1410->1294).
    [01:24.73] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (1298->1182).
    [01:26.26] Bane hits Pudge for 67 damage (1187->1120).

    Second time to use lvl 2 ulti on an enemy gives 5 damage instances. But now all all damage instances are from lvl 2
    [01:29.36] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (1132->1016).
    [01:29.36] Pudge receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Bane.
    [01:30.39] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (1020->904).
    [01:31.39] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (907->791).
    [01:32.39] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (795->679).
    [01:33.39] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (683->567).
    [01:34.96] Bane hits Pudge for 68 damage (572->504).

    First time to use lvl 3 ulti on an enemy give 5 damage instances. But the first tick does lvl 2 damage
    [01:38.86] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 116 damage (2449->2333).
    [01:38.86] Pudge receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Bane.
    [01:39.89] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (2337->2176).
    [01:40.89] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (2180->2019).
    [01:41.89] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (2022->1861).
    [01:42.89] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1865->1704).
    [01:44.39] Bane hits Pudge for 68 damage (1709->1641).

    Second time to use lvl 3 ulti on an enemy gives 5 damage instances. But now all all damage instances are from lvl 3
    [01:45.66] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1645->1484).
    [01:45.66] Pudge receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Bane.
    [01:46.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1488->1327).
    [01:47.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1330->1169).
    [01:48.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1172->1011).
    [01:49.69] Bane hits Pudge with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1015->854).
    [01:51.26] Bane hits Pudge for 69 damage (860->791).

    Edit:
    When Rubick steals the banes ulti it happens almost the same. The first use ever does not have the tick at t=0=gettingdebuff. BUT he has an extra damage tick at t=losingdebuff

    [21:06.41] Bane receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Rubick.
    [21:07.44] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1897->1736).
    [21:08.44] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1739->1578).
    [21:09.44] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1581->1420).
    [21:10.44] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1423->1262).
    [21:11.44] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1264->1103).
    [21:11.44] Bane loses FIEND'S GRIP debuff.
    [21:12.17] Rubick hits Bane for 55 damage (1105->1050).

    So for the seconds time casting the ulti Rubick can deal 6 instances.

    [21:14.84] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (1058->897).
    [21:14.84] Bane receives FIEND'S GRIP debuff from Rubick.
    [21:15.87] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (900->739).
    [21:16.87] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (742->581).
    [21:17.87] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (583->422).
    [21:18.87] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (425->264).
    [21:19.87] Rubick hits Bane with FIEND'S GRIP for 161 damage (267->106).
    [21:19.87] Bane loses FIEND'S GRIP debuff.
    [21:20.44] Rubick hits Bane for 55 damage (108->53).
    Last edited by Kunze-Waldemar; 10-29-2012, 08:38 AM.

  • #2
    it's the same issue(i mean wrong damage scale + missing tick on first use r probably from the same problem). first time u used it, it justs account as lvl 0, thus 0 damage.
    Last edited by Eric37073; 10-29-2012, 09:03 AM.

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    • #3
      The previous issue he has linked is about Fiend's Grip having 1 less tick all the time.
      Now, the Kunze guy is reporting that Bane is using the last tick of the previous Grip he has used as his first tick.

      The ticks throughout the game are basically shifted by 1 second. Meaning that if the first EVER tick was 1 second before, the first Grip would have 5 full ticks and the second Grip wouldn't began with the last tick of the previous. Or something like that...
      If the first tick has happened 1 second before, then everything would be in order.

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      • #4
        What could be wrong with the 6 damage instances? I does not follow any logic.
        I randomly created Banes and Rubicks as friends and enemies. For further ultis they can do either 6 instances (at any time) or they can only do only 5 (at any time).

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        • #5
          readded to sticky.
          Make sure to read the Forum Rules as well as the stickied Threads of the Forum Section you are posting in.

          Contributions i'd like to highlight:
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          My Sticky: Intended Changes List
          My Challenge: Completely Fixed Hero Challenge: Skywrath Mage

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          • #6
            I'd like to bump this and say that this has gotten even worse.

            Bane is now ticking for a total of 6 ticks when he uses his ult instead of 5, meaning he does a heckuva lot more damage than the should be; his level 1 does 450 instead of 375---his level 2 does 696 instead of 580....and his level 3 does a whopping 966 instead of 805.

            This happens on "latest" patch and "tournament" patch---should bane even be allowed in the qualifiers with bugged damage like this? No idea if the duration is bugged too.

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            • #7
              this is partially fixed. bane now deals correct ticks of damage on every levels of fiend's grip. however, rubick could still do 1 more tick of damage.
              Originally posted by Fox McCloud View Post
              I'd like to bump this and say that this has gotten even worse.

              Bane is now ticking for a total of 6 ticks when he uses his ult instead of 5, meaning he does a heckuva lot more damage than the should be; his level 1 does 450 instead of 375---his level 2 does 696 instead of 580....and his level 3 does a whopping 966 instead of 805.

              This happens on "latest" patch and "tournament" patch---should bane even be allowed in the qualifiers with bugged damage like this? No idea if the duration is bugged too.
              ty for bumping this. but i dont think what u said is true

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              • #8
                See for yourself:

                http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...97BC9FE5F60BD/
                http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...9CBFDEBE9F510/
                http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...7ECE819D51882/

                This is a total of 6 ticks worth of damage; not 5.

                And in case you think it's just a visual glitch, here's a combat log. This is the VERY first time I made Bane use Fiend's grip--so there wasn't any overlapping from last time or the last one only doing 4 ticks. It's just plain ticking one more time than it should....it seems the total duration is fine:

                http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...275035D7643D1/
                Last edited by Fox McCloud; 05-19-2013, 01:06 AM.

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                • #9
                  [01:06.53] Bane hits Sven with Fiend's Grip for 75 damage (587->512).
                  [01:06.53] Sven receives Fiend's Grip debuff from Bane.
                  [01:07.56] Bane hits Sven with Fiend's Grip for 75 damage (513->438).
                  [01:08.56] Bane hits Sven with Fiend's Grip for 75 damage (439->364).
                  [01:09.56] Bane hits Sven with Fiend's Grip for 75 damage (365->290).
                  [01:10.56] Bane hits Sven with Fiend's Grip for 75 damage (291->216).
                  [01:11.56] Sven loses Fiend's Grip debuff.

                  it's totally normal on my end

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                  • #10
                    Is this another "picked hero vs. -createhero" issue?
                    If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kryil- View Post
                      Is this another "picked hero vs. -createhero" issue?
                      not sure i believe we both picked bane from the picker

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                      • #12
                        No he did not. He played as Pugna. It happens when you play in a lobby and -createhero an ENEMY Bane, casting on a PICKED hero.

                        Picked Bane -> 5 ticks.
                        Created another Bane for me -> 5 ticks.
                        Created an enemy Bane -> 6 ticks, but ONLY against my picked hero. Casting it on my other created Banes resulted in 5 ticks.

                        Fuck logic.
                        If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                        • #13
                          ^ah, i see. so does that mean in a NORMAL game, such problem wont happen at all?
                          ps. then my statement on rubick is invalid. i should test later, but dota2 server not working for some reason

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                          • #14
                            According to my lobby test, no. But since this is so horribly strange, I can't guarantee it without a real test in a real game (taking a Bane replay, checking it).

                            EDIT: The same is true for Rubick. Rubicks stolen Fiends Grip ticks 5 times if cast by a picked hero, 6 times if cast by a -createhero Rubick on a picked one.
                            EDIT2: Oh, I missed something. As I never tested picked vs picked, this COULD be a problem regarding the target, ignoring the caster.
                            Last edited by Kryil-; 05-19-2013, 02:58 AM.
                            If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                            • #15
                              Ok, interesting results. I know if you play against bots in co-op or practice against bots Bane also ticks for 6.

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