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[Confirmed] Tusk - Ice Shards - Do not angle properly (should)

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  • [Confirmed] Tusk - Ice Shards - Do not angle properly (should)



    Pay attention to the orange arrow, representing the primary crystal's creation direction.
    Disregard the amount of the blue arrows... for now. It will be the topic of another report.

    Overly detailed information on the next post.
    Edit
    I thought some may understand the case better with this one so I am adding LINKING this, credits to Typhox:
    http://i.imgur.com/i0KVkSt.png
    Linking because it looked like too much of a mess to my eyes...
    Last edited by ThoAppelsin; 02-14-2013, 02:43 PM.

  • #2
    Personally, I haven't really played much with Tuskarr in DotA, therefore I did not have much experience on this guy to rely on while testing.
    So, this time, I rather took the help of the jass code instead of personal experience. Took me a while to understand it, but now I think I can speak Jass as good as I speak French.

    Je na parle François.

    Anyway, I am whiting out this part. If you are interested, read this post.


    Function called "Func3711" is the main function for the Ice Shards.
    It has many lines for projectile creation, projection, hurting units on the way without getting them hurt multiple times, and then the projectile destruction...
    And then, the part about the ice crystal creation comes:

    Code:
        if unit370!=null then
          call Func3709(loc_unit01,unit370,loc_real06,loc_real07,loc_real05*bj_RADTODEG)
        else
          call Func3709(loc_unit01,null,loc_real06,loc_real07,loc_real05*bj_RADTODEG)
        endif
    Function "Func3709" is for the ice crystal creation.
    unit370, if I'm not mistaken, is the code for (non-allied) heroes.

    Func3709 tries hard, really hard to make the ice crystals appear in set angles, regarding a specific direction.

    Code:
      if loc_unit02!=null then
        set loc_real04=GetUnitX(loc_unit02)
        set loc_real05=GetUnitY(loc_unit02)
        set loc_real06=Func0158(loc_real01,loc_real02,loc_real04,loc_real05)
      else
        set loc_real06=loc_real03
        set loc_real04=loc_real01+50*Cos(loc_real06*bj_DEGTORAD)
        set loc_real05=loc_real02+50*Sin(loc_real06*bj_DEGTORAD)
      endif
    If it hits a hero;
    It gets the location where the projectile last was, and also gets the unit370 in question's location.
    Calculates the angle inbetween.
    Creates 5 shards that are 200 units afar from the hero, and 40 degrees apart from each other, and for some reason, as if it matters, also facing inwards (important!!)...
    Crystals have 5 seconds of lifetime.
    Using the calculated angle, it places the crystal in the middle, the orange one, the primary one. Adds 40, 80; and subtracts 40, 80 from that angle for the other crystals.


    The current state on Dota 2 could be achieved easily by just removing the first parts from the code extracts I have provided. It actually doesn't matter which one gets removed. Even if just one of them gets removed, it would work like it does on Dota 2...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Verdey
      Is it any important ?
      I hope you are referring to the "Je na parle François." part in my post...


      Even if not, I recommend you to lie.

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      • #4
        I'm not joking, is it really a major bug ? I can't grasp the importance of this. Could the mislaid angle trigger more bugs, or is it just a different way of trigerring the spell ?
        Please explain.
        Verdey - Former Initiator

        As I'm french, I often make grammar and syntax mistakes. Please forgive me

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        • #5
          Do you understand the fact that it currently is wrong in Dota 2, and should be eventually (sooner or later) be fixed to interact the way it does in DotA?

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          • #6
            I understand what you mean but I don't see this as a Critical Bug.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ThoAppelsin View Post


              Pay attention to the orange arrow, representing the primary crystal's creation direction.
              Disregard the amount of the blue arrows... for now. It will be the topic of another report.

              Overly detailed information on the next post.
              I don't get it. Are you saying that currently in Dota 2 the opening between the shards always faces the same direction? I don't think that you're saying that, but I couldn't find any other meaning

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              • #8
                God...

                He says that shards take the angle of direction the spell is flying instead of the angle the unit is hit, pay attention to those smaller light blue arrows, the dota2 is snakeish

                kpZEuqsl.jpg <- explanation

                sorry for using ur pic Appelsin, but this way it's is easier to explain
                Last edited by Rysik; 02-14-2013, 12:45 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kolt View Post
                  I understand what you mean but I don't see this as a Critical Bug.
                  Yeah, ok, that was the answer I was expecting to see... But you are not the Verdey guy...
                  kolt, you are a legacy member as far as I can see. I was trying to teach Verdey something here, but since you also don't know about it, I may aswell teach it to you:




                  See this path of linkings?
                  It begins with the Forum, and then the next step is Test Client.
                  You see, this section, is for the issues that emerged with the last Test Client.

                  Due to the fact that these things will be ported over to the main client in ~24 hours, every bug the Test Client is considered as Critical.
                  Critical means critical. Not severe.
                  Critical means that it is somewhat urgent. The fact that it will be set into the main client soon, makes it urgent.

                  I did not call this bug as severe. It could be considered as moderate, though... Still, it is critical without a doubt.

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                  • #10
                    this is true, shards are created in a straight line with collision and hero

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kolt View Post
                      I understand what you mean but I don't see this as a Critical Bug.
                      Perhaps the subforum "critical bugs" has not been so appropriately named, but bugs that are exclusive to the test client should be more appropriate here than any other subforum. Anyway, every small thing matters to some extend, as long as it is a disparity (with wc3).

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                      • #12
                        It's obvious what he means, jesus.... and it's a fairly important thing to fix. Confirmed "bug".

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rysik View Post
                          God...

                          He says that shards take the angle of direction the spell is flying instead of the angle the unit is hit, pay attention to those smaller light blue arrows, the dota2 is snakeish

                          [ATTACH]12890[/ATTACH] <- explanation

                          sorry for using ur pic Appelsin, but this way it's is easier to explain
                          Ah thanks. Usually when people explain a bug only the resulting behaviour is different. In the graphic both, the small blue arrow and the orange arrow are different, so it shows too different situations which of course are different from another. I still don't get that meaning from only the picture and the text in the OP.

                          Edit: So the big blue Arrow is supposed to represent the projectile? And the small snakeish arrow is what?
                          Last edited by Typhox; 02-14-2013, 01:42 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Okay, let me annotate the arrows;

                            >Bold dark blue arrow is the Ice Shards projectile
                            >The dark red wide dot is the target, a target that Ice Shards can explode on, basically, an enemy hero
                            >The somewhat thinner orange arrow is the direction represents where the primary/middle crystal gets created relative to the hero that Ice Shards have exploded on
                            >The light blue arrows that accompany the orange arrow are the remaining crystals
                            >The thinnest and lightest blue arrow just represents that the Ice Shards projectile is interacting with the target hero there... Also shows 225 AoE range is met, and that the Shards do not have to be in direct contact to interact with the hero.


                            I don't know, I surely could omit that arrow from there, but I wanted to keep it so that the action could look fluent.
                            The events happen in this order:
                            1. The dark blue arrow
                            2. The thinnest and lightest blue arrow
                            3. And then the rest of the arrows all at once...

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                            • #15


                              Clear now?

                              ninja'd
                              Last edited by Rysik; 02-14-2013, 02:09 PM.

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