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[Confirmed] most (skill) orb effects work on Nether Ward

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  • [Confirmed] most (skill) orb effects work on Nether Ward

    Summary:

    As title

    Repro:

    1) pick silencer, spawn enemy pugna
    2) Create nether ward on enemy pugna
    3) attack it with glaives of wisdom activated

    Result:

    The ward dies rather fast!

    Expected result:

    It's a ward... Shouldn't be targettable by glaives of wisdom, like every other ward in the game.
    Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

  • #2
    what about other orb effects?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by blash365 View Post
      what about other orb effects?
      Glaives, Frost arrows and Poison attack works on wards (arcane orb and burning spears doesnt).

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      • #4
        thanks. added to sticky.

        what about clinkz arrows?
        you said "on wards", does this include all wards or just the nether ward?


        tested some wc3 dota interactions to have references:

        effect observer ward / sentry mass serpent wards nether ward plague wards healing ward
        bouncing gleaves works doesnt work works works works
        meld works works
        works
        works
        works
        frost arrows doesnt work doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        flame arrows doesnt work doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        burning spears doesnt work doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        impetus doesnt work doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        poison attack doesnt work doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        arcane orb doesnt work doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        doesnt work
        jinada doesnt work but goes into cooldown doesnt work but goes into cooldown
        doesnt work but goes into cooldown
        doesnt work but goes into cooldown
        doesnt work but goes into cooldown


        only bouncing gleaves behaves a bit different depending on the wardtype.
        Last edited by blash365; 03-01-2013, 07:34 AM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by blash365 View Post
          what about other orb effects?
          It has been fixed for Arcane Orb ages ago.

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          • #6
            Pretty sure (bouncing) glaives work on rhasta wards, just can't jump to wards (which should be the correct interaction IIRC)

            Also I think you meant to put glaives of wisdom :P I don't think that there's an issue with bouncing glaives and wards.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wyn-Ryder View Post
              Pretty sure (bouncing) glaives work on rhasta wards, just can't jump to wards (which should be the correct interaction IIRC)

              Also I think you meant to put glaives of wisdom :P I don't think that there's an issue with bouncing glaives and wards.
              as i stated above, glaives are not bouncing from serpent wards in wc3 dota.
              they do in dota 2 afaik.
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              • #8
                That's how it work in Dota 2 now:

                Effect Observer / Sentry Mass serpent wards Nether ward Plague wards Healing ward
                Searing Arrow doesn’t work doesn’t work works doesn’t work doesn’t work
                Frost Arrow doesn’t work doesn’t work works doesn’t work doesn’t work
                Poison Attack doesn’t work doesn’t work works doesn’t work doesn’t work
                Impetus works/no bonus damage works/no bonus damage works works/no bonus damage works/no bonus damage
                Meld works works works works works
                Burning Spear doesn’t work doesn’t work doesn’t work doesn’t work doesn’t work
                Arcane Orb doesn’t work doesn’t work doesn’t work doesn’t work doesn’t work
                Moon Glaive Bounce only from ward to unit Bounce only from ward to unit Bounce only from ward to unit Bounce only from ward to unit Bounce only from ward to unit
                Jinada doesn’t work* doesn’t work* doesn’t work* doesn’t work* doesn’t work*
                What marked red doesnt work in Dota 1.

                *Should go on CD, no bonus damage
                Last edited by lunatic3k; 02-28-2013, 09:22 PM.

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                • #9
                  ^Slight correction, ward to unit. And that impetus thing is probably related to their old fix about it being targettable on magic immune, but not do any damage.

                  Also the pugna nether ward thing is probably also related to it being targettable by decrepify... Decrepify should be able to target all wards, but currently can only target his own netherward.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wyn-Ryder View Post
                    ^Slight correction, ward to unit.
                    fixed

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                    • #11
                      thanks for the dota 2 list.

                      i forgot arcane orb btw.
                      so if anybody has some time to waste...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blash365 View Post
                        thanks for the dota 2 list.

                        i forgot arcane orb btw.
                        so if anybody has some time to waste...
                        I retested all effects in both wc3 and d2. (arcane orbs in the table already)

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                        • #13
                          ah, i see.

                          just for the record, i didnt forget to test poison attack, i just forgot to list it.;P
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