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[Confirmed] Windrunner Focus Fire vs. Damage Block

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  • [Confirmed] Windrunner Focus Fire vs. Damage Block

    Summary:

    Damage block is being calculated AFTER the 50/40/30% damage reduction, and is therefore causing windrunner to do substantially less damage to enemies with vanguard/PMS.

    Repro:

    1) Pick windrunner, level to 6 spawn an enemy hero and give them a vanguard. For ease of calculations I recommend a level 1 wisp (0 armour exactly)
    2) Cast focus fire and fire away
    3) Review the combat log

    Result:

    [00:43.26] Windrunner receives Focus Fire buff from Windrunner.
    [00:43.86] Windrunner hits Wisp for 9 damage (723->714).
    [00:44.19] Windrunner hits Wisp for 31 damage (716->685).
    [00:44.49] Windrunner hits Wisp for 11 damage (687->676).
    [00:44.79] Windrunner hits Wisp for 10 damage (677->667).
    [00:45.09] Windrunner hits Wisp for 34 damage (669->635).
    [00:45.39] Windrunner hits Wisp for 8 damage (636->628).
    [00:45.69] Windrunner hits Wisp for 8 damage (630->622).
    [00:45.99] Windrunner hits Wisp for 12 damage (623->611).
    [00:46.29] Windrunner hits Wisp for 34 damage (613->579).
    [00:46.59] Windrunner hits Wisp for 31 damage (581->550).

    A 20 damage difference is observed...

    Expected result:

    Focus fire worked as a pre-heal in WC3 DotA, and therefore it calculated the damage you were going to deal and healed the enemy for half of that just before getting hit. So you should deal (for example) (60 - 20) / 2 = 20 damage minimum. Instead it's calculating (60)/2 - 20 = 10 damage.
    Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

  • #2
    What about the Aghanim version that doesn't use pre-heal? That one uses a different ability to achieve the damage reduction. (talking about dota1)

    If the aghanim version give this similar result, I'd lean toward it being a fix (and less reason to ever, ever use Focus Fire on heroes, lol)
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    • #3
      http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21493

      Focus Fire upgraded is based on defend.

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      • #4
        Yeah. Due to it being based off defend (or similar ability) aghanims Focus Fire should be reduced by stout shield, although I can't test right now.
        Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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        • #5
          Bump. It should be noted somewhere (either known bugs or intended changes)
          Comprehensive Damage Reduction & Amplifications Dota 2 Guide

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          • #6
            added to sticky.
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            Contributions i'd like to highlight:
            My Suggestion: Coaching System
            My Sticky: Intended Changes List
            My Challenge: Completely Fixed Hero Challenge: Skywrath Mage

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