[Confirmed] List of all spells that have wrong interractions with Visage's Familiars

[EbToX]

As the title says, due to the big ammount of wrong interractions of various heroes spells/items with Visage's familiars instead of creating a new thread for each and everyone one of them i will add them up in this thread.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&usp=sharing


If you find something that is not included in this list or in my previous threads then PM me and i will add it in the list.

EDIT:Thanks to li.lo for helping me with the list !

P.S, "Unaffected" means that the familiars don't get the debuff they're supposed to get it doesn't mean that they don't get the damage from that spell (except for some particular spells)

[li.lo]

Use Google Docs or a table cuz it looks messy

[fakoykas]

Why don't you add the contents of the other threads here and ask for blash to remove the extra threads?

Good job btw

[EbToX]

Use Google Docs or a table cuz it looks messy

Uhm i know it does look messy and even though i don't know how to use Google Docs but i will try to clean this up a little bit.

[bu3ny]

I had some time and tested all str heroes' spells on the familliars in dota1 and 2. Found looots of differences. I will post them tomorrow here.
So if you going to test more, dont bother with str heroes.

I'll see if I can do the rest in the next few days. Today was only enough for str.

[blash365]

added to sticky.
good job.

[jam3972]

Does Lunas ult consider familiars for targets in dota 1?

Same question for dota 2.

[EbToX]

Does Lunas ult consider familiars for targets in dota 1?

Same question for dota 2.

Nope, Eclipse wouldn't hit familiars in both DotA 1 & 2.

[Wyn-Ryder]

Your spectral dagger test is incorrect I believe --> it shouldn't give bonus MS to familiars if they're on spectre's team. Only heroes (or illusions of heroes) owned by spectre [or rubick] should get bonus ms from spectral dagger.

[EbToX]

Your spectral dagger test is incorrect I believe --> it shouldn't give bonus MS to familiars if they're on spectre's team. Only heroes (or illusions of heroes) owned by spectre [or rubick] should get bonus ms from spectral dagger.

Yeah, you're right.I thought that since it lowers speed it should also increase their movement speed.Thanks.

[bu3ny]

Here is what I got by now. I write only the stuff which is wrong in Dota2 and put things in grey which you already have in that doc.
All spells marked with * place a slow/stun debuff on the familliars, without actually slowing/stunning them.

Earthshaker:


Fissure: Moves familliars aside. *

Aftershock: Doesn't stun *


Centaur Warrunner:


Hoofstomp: Doesn't stun *

Double Edge: Doesn't mini-stun

Stampede: damages *


Kunkka:

Tidebringer: Doesn't damage

X Marks The Spot: Fully works


Omniknight:


Degen Aura: Doesn't slow movement speed (it does slow attackspeed though, which is correct)

Brewmaster:


Thunderclap: Doesn't slow *

Drunken Haze: Doesn't slow

Primal Split - Hurl Boulder: Doesn't stun *

Primal Split - Cyclone: Fully works


Sven:


Storm Bolt: Doesn't stun (note: In DotA1, it only stuns when the Familliar is the primary target. Not affected by the AoE stun.) *

Warcry: Fully works

Greater Cleave: Doesn't damage


Treant Protector:

Nature's Guise: Doesn't increase movement speed

Leech Seed: Doesn't slow

Overgrowth: shows visual effects (roots) and interrupts last command *


Alchemist:


Unstable Concuction: and damages (note: This goes for the spell's AoE effect.) *


Tiny:


Avalanche: Doesn't stun *

Toss: Can toss other units to them (note: In DotA1, Toss can't target familliars at all. Says can't target ancients)

Craggy Extarior: Doesn't stun *

Grow! - agha cleave: Doesn't damage


Io:


Tether: Doesn't increase movement speed *

Spirits: Affets the familliars like regular creeps (don't explode on colliding, small damage, take damage when being close to them when they explode)

Overcharge: Doesn't grant damage reduction

Relocate: Fully works


Elder Titan:


Echo Stomp: Doesn't affect them at all (should fully work)


Clockwerk:


Hookshot: Damages, Doesn't disable them while Clockwerk pulls himself towards them (this is different than the actual stun, which shouldn't and doesn't hit them) *


Dragon Knight:


Dragon Tail: Doesn't stun *

Elder Dragon Form - Frost Breath: Doesn't slow *


Huskar:


Inner Vitality: Castable on them with no effect (note: Shouldn't be castable on them)

Lifebreak: Doesn't slow *


Bristleback:


Viscous Nasal Goo: Doesn't slow


Tusk:


Ice Shards: Damages

Snowball: Damages *

Walrus Punch: Doesn't slow, familliars can still attack/turn while being knocked up. *


Axe:

Culling Blade: gives movement speed boost (Axe as ally)


Skeleton King:


Hellfire Blast: Doesn't stun and slow *

Mortal Strike: Fully works

Reincarnation: Doesn't slow *


Magnus:

Reverse Polarity: Pulls and doesn't stun *


Chaos Knight:


Chaos Bolt: Doesn't stun *


Doom:

Devour - Purge: Doesn't slow *

Devour - Mana Burn: Can be cast on them (shouldn't be able to target because no mana pool)

Devour - Unholy Aura: Affects them

Devour - Tornado: Doesn't slow *

Devour - Speed Aura: Doesn't increase movement speed

Devour - Hoof Stomp: Doesn't stun *

Devour - Heal: Fully works (shouldn't be able to target)

Devour - Mana Aura: Affects them

Devour - Thunder Clap: Doesn't slow *

Devour - Frost Attack: Doesn't slow *

LVL? Death: Fully works

Doom: Can't target them


Lifestealer:


Open Wounds: Doesn't slow

Infest: Damages


Lycanthrope:


Howl: Fully works


Nightstalker:


Void: Doesn't ministun and slow *


Slardar:


Slithereen Crush: Doesn't stun and slow, damages *

Bash: Doesn't stun *


Undying:


Soul Rip: Counts them as secondary targets

Tombstone: Doesn't slow *

Flesh Golem: Doesn't slow *


Tidehunter:


Gush: Doesn't slow


Spirit Breaker:


Charge of Darkness: Doesn't stun, Greater bashes them as secondary targets *

Empowering Haste: Doesn't increase movement speeed

Greater Bash: Familliars can still attack/turn while being knocked back, doesn't stun (note: this goes also for the Greater Bash applied via charge and ulti)

Nether Strike: Fully works


Sandking:


Burrow Strike: Knocks in air (can still attack/turn), damages *

Sandstorm: Damages

Epicenter: Damages *

[EbToX]

. . .

Thanks, i will add these changes.

EDIT: As for the this :

Relocate: Fully works

It works in DotA 1 aswell.

[EbToX]

Added items that have wrong interractions with Familiars in the list.
(second page)

[bu3ny]

Agi.
*= spell places debuff/buff, with no effect (no stun/slow/ms boost)

This forum really needs [spoiler].


Antimage


Mana Void: Doesn't mini-stun *


Sniper:


Headshot: Doesn't stun *

Assassinate: Doesn't mini-stun *


Juggernaut


Blade Fury: Damages


Luna


Lucent Beam: Castable, places debuff


Morphling


Adaptive Strike: Can't target


Naga Siren


Ensnare: Doesn't prevent movement


Phantom Lancer


Spirit Lance: Doesn't slow *


Mirana


Sacred Arrow: Doesn't stun *

Leap: Places debuff (Note: Doesn't boost ms which is right.)


Troll Warlord:


Berserker's Rage - Bash: Doesn't stun *

Whirling Axes ranged: Damages *

Whirling Axes melee: Damages *


Gyrocopter


Homing Missile: Doesn't stun *


Drow Ranger


Frost Arrows: Doesn't slow *


Templar Assassin


Psi Blades: Damages

Psionic Trap: Places debuff


Ursa Warrior


Earthshock: Doesn't slow *


Vengeful Spirit


Magic Missile: Doesn't stun *

Wave of Terror: Doesn't reduce armor (@OP: you wrote that it damages them in DotA1, but it doesn't)

Nether Swap agh: Just a small issue. When trying to cast on them, it shows no error message. Besides that, it works as it should (means it doesn't work on them).


Bounty Hunter


Shuriken Toss: Doesn't mini-stun *

Jinada: Doesn't slow *

Track: Doesn't increase movement speed *


Bloodseeker


Bloodrage: Fully works


Broodmother

Spiderlings - Poison Sting: Doesn't slow

Spiderlings - Spawn Spiderite: Fully works

Incapacitating Bite: Doesn't slow, doesn't apply miss chance *


Nyx Assassin


Mana Burn: can target (doesn't do anything though)

Spiked Carapace: Stuns Visage


Phantom Assassin


Stiffling Dagger: Doesn't slow *


Nevermore


Requiem of Souls: Doesn't slow


Spectre


Spectral Dagger: Can directly target them, doesn't slow *


Venomancer

Venemous Gale: Doesn't slow *

Poison Sting: Doesn't slow *


Meepo


Earthbind: Doesn't affect

Poof: Doesn't damage

Geostrike: Doesn't slow


Razor


Static Link: Fully works


Faceless Void:


Timewalk: Places debuff

Timelock: Doesn't stun (note: Visually, the Familliars are frozen, but not stunned) *

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