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[Intended] AA's Ice Blast's Frostbite debuff doesn't get removed by Manta/BKB

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  • [Intended] AA's Ice Blast's Frostbite debuff doesn't get removed by Manta/BKB

    Hi, as far as i know Frostbite debuff should be removed by Manta split or BKB activation, at least it did before. Now the debuff stays no matter what (with or without Aghanims).

    Edit by Buny:
    Purge should beable to remove the debuff but is not right now:
    Diffusal Blade Purge
    Neutral creep Purge
    Unstable Current Purge
    Doom Devoured Neutral creep Purge
    Demonic Purge
    Last edited by bu3ny; 01-23-2014, 11:12 AM. Reason: Added list of spells

  • #2
    Can confirm, AA ult wasn't removed by BKB, Manta or Dark Pact(normal rank 1 ult, no agh). It is removed in dota1 in the current version(again without agh didn't bother to check with it).

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    • #3
      That doesn't seem to match up with this: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422318

      Unless Icefrog changed how the spell works in DotA 1...

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      • #4
        also, in dota 2 wiki, it says it can be purged... so diffusal blade and any other purges

        edit: thanks eric
        Last edited by chunkyboy; 06-06-2013, 08:34 AM.

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        • #5
          ^sd ulti? u sure about that?

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          • #6
            AA's ulti was changed to be purgeable in 6.66, basically right after AA was added in dota1. It's been purgeable ever since afaik, and was in dota2 until recently(probably until this patch but haven't played AA in forever). The only bug with it is that Slark/Tidehunter couldn't remove it with their abilities, for some reason and in fact there's a known bug report for that.

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            • #7
              also add euls which should remove it but in fact doesnt
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pyros View Post
                AA's ulti was changed to be purgeable in 6.66, basically right after AA was added in dota1. It's been purgeable ever since afaik, and was in dota2 until recently(probably until this patch but haven't played AA in forever). The only bug with it is that Slark/Tidehunter couldn't remove it with their abilities, for some reason and in fact there's a known bug report for that.
                The thread I posted was accurate as of 6.74. I just posted it because it was the original reference for future posts on the matter. As far as I'm aware the DotA 1 behavior is:
                - BKB blocks the magic damage, but does NOT purge the HP freeze/shatter debuff
                - Purge, Cyclone, Dark Pact, Kraken Shell remove the buff and it stays off
                - Manta removes the buff, but if you are not damaged within 0.5 seconds, the buff is triggered to reapply itself

                I just want to make sure this is reported correctly. The buff being unpurge-able is a bug, but as far as I'm aware, the HP freeze/shatter are not removed by magic immunity.

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                • #9
                  added to sticky.
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                  • #10
                    Ice Blast is definitely removed by: Diffusal Blade Purge, Satyr Trickster's Purge, Unstable Current's Purge, Doom Bringer's Devoured Purge (this uses a different ability code), Cyclone from Eul's Scepter, and Demonic Purge, and Fortune's End.

                    It may also be removed by: Indeterminate. Things that can remove buffs based on BOac Command Aura Buff, I suppose.
                    Last edited by imxtrabored; 06-06-2013, 02:15 PM.

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                    • #11
                      What about Dark Pact?

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                      • #12
                        Dark Pact is funny—apparently it doesn't "Purge", it instead clears debuffs using a specific list. In any case, Ice Blast debuff is on the list, and is removed (since it removes the debuff only, the effect may linger up to a second or so in DotA 1).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by imxtrabored View Post
                          Ice Blast is definitely removed by: Diffusal Blade Purge, Satyr Trickster's Purge, Unstable Current's Purge, Doom Bringer's Devoured Purge (this uses a different ability code), Cyclone from Eul's Scepter, and Demonic Purge, and Fortune's End.

                          It may also be removed by: Indeterminate. Things that can remove buffs based on BOac Command Aura Buff, I suppose.
                          From my understanding, this means that it is NOT removed by Magic Immunity because Magic Immunity does not cancel auras? Meaning that the thread title/initial report are misleading?
                          Last edited by TheYango; 06-07-2013, 10:14 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Bump to raise awareness.

                            Edit: Somehow I can't properly test this in DracoLich's 6.79c Test version, I'm using -owner X on other heroes but the AA ult debuff doesn't stay on them. Help

                            Ok after reading http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1407396
                            title should be edited, it's misleading.
                            Last edited by Noya; 03-08-2014, 09:21 AM.
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                            • #15
                              I want to have this bug addressed asap. Tbh, AA is owning alot atm in competitive just because his ultimate is unpurgable by everything. Cant counterpick it at all with Abba/LC or manta/bkb/euls....

                              This bug affects the balance quite much compared to most bugs currently.

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