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  • Neutral Centaur stun

    So.. he uses his first stun when 3 or more units are infront of him.

    But if there are less then 3creeps/heros 20 seconds later, he will still use it, even if its only 1 creep/hero.

    Is that intended? Should he stun or not?


    Also, Someone knows why it doesnt explain the 3or more rule anywhere?
    Last edited by Dortayo; 10-08-2013, 11:54 AM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dortayo View Post
    So.. he uses his first stun when 3 or more units are infront of him.

    But if there are less then 3creeps/heros 20 seconds later, he will still use it, even if its only 1 creep/hero.

    Is that intended? Should he stun or not?


    Also, Someone knows why it doesnt explain the 3or more rule anywhere?
    Match ID for when he stuns when there's less than 3 units?

    And the "3" rule applies to a few different creeps, it's just part of the AI. It's not listed for the same reason that you can't read anything about how creeps work when you select one.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kangaroux View Post
      Match ID for when he stuns when there's less than 3 units?

      And the "3" rule applies to a few different creeps, it's just part of the AI. It's not listed for the same reason that you can't read anything about how creeps work when you select one.
      It's reproducable actually.

      Start a new game, level up to 25. Pull a centaur camp.
      -> Immediately deny every creep. You should be able to deny enough creeps so that only 1 or 2 are left, when he stuns again (20 seconds).

      I did it with void twice.

      The centaur stuns again.. dota2://matchid=337172023&matchtime=682
      Last edited by Dortayo; 10-08-2013, 05:57 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dortayo View Post
        It's reproducable actually.

        Start a new game, level up to 25. Pull a centaur camp.
        -> Immediately deny every creep. You should be able to deny enough creeps so that only 1 or 2 are left, when he stuns again (20 seconds).

        I did it with void twice.

        The centaur stuns again.. dota2://matchid=337172023&matchtime=682

        would just like to add it would be a lot easier to use natures prophet/lycan than lane creeps

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        • #5
          I had a match not long ago where the centaur refused to stun at all. I had 6 eleons and me standing around him, and he didnt stun at all. Then the eleons all ran out and the centaur stunned me. I mean it didnt happen twice but the one time I was super confused.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rockonrob View Post
            I had a match not long ago where the centaur refused to stun at all. I had 6 eleons and me standing around him, and he didnt stun at all. Then the eleons all ran out and the centaur stunned me. I mean it didnt happen twice but the one time I was super confused.
            Doubt this was the case but i seems to me that the centaur will only stun if the 3 units are in front of him, that might have been the case
            Originally posted by Hitokiri Battousai
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            • #7
              It feels like if it was using corpses as units for the counter. I've seen many random stuns already.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Noya View Post
                It feels like if it was using corpses as units for the counter. I've seen many random stuns already.
                Perfect test for this is NP, as you can simply move the treants away (or let them die)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Noya View Post
                  It feels like if it was using corpses as units for the counter. I've seen many random stuns already.
                  Oooh! Just like how drows ult disabled from a nearby enemy hero corpse

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by frankles View Post
                    Oooh! Just like how drows ult disabled from a nearby enemy hero corpse
                    Or Doom's corpse keeping the Agh effect activated.

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                    • #11
                      This should be pretty much confirmed by now.

                      Seen it happen today in D2L's Game 3 between LGD and TongFu, min 1:10 ingame, Merlini and Ayesee were like wtf is that centaur doing

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                      http://www.twitch.tv/d2l/b/472060270?t=504m18s
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                      • #12
                        This bug isn't Centaur specific, right? I think all the neutrals are bugged.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Noo View Post
                          This bug isn't Centaur specific, right? I think all the neutrals are bugged.
                          Yea, I feel like the Satyr has this problem too. I haven't seen a problem with the Ursa warrior yet, though.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, it's all. Even Roshan. Saw him slamming the ground randomly as he got attacked while no one was in slam range.
                            Please, just call me buny.

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