Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules

  • No flaming or derogatory remarks, directly or through insinuation.
  • No discussion, sharing or referencing illegal software such as hacks, keygen, cracks and pirated software.
  • No offensive contents, including but not limited to, racism, gore or pornography.
  • No excessive spam/meme, i.e. copious one liners in a short period of time, typing with all caps or posting meme responses (text/image).
  • No trolling, including but not limited to, flame incitation, user provocation or false information distribution.
  • No link spamming or signature advertisements for content not specific to Dota 2.
  • No Dota 2 key requests, sell, trade etc.
  • You may not create multiple accounts for any purpose, including ban evasion, unless expressly permitted by a moderator.

  • Please search before posting. One thread per issue. Do not create another thread if there is an existing one already.
  • Before posting anything, make sure you check out all sticky threads (e.g., this). Do not create new threads about closed ones.
  • It is extremely important that you post in correct forum section.

  • Balance discussion only in Misc.
  • All art related (such as hero model) feedbacks go to Art Feedback Forum.
  • All matchmaking feedback should go here: Matchmaking Feedback
  • All report/low priority issues should go here: Commend/Report/Ban Feedback
  • No specific workshop item feedback. These should go to workshop page of that item.
  • When posting in non-bugs section (such as this), use [Bugs], [Discussion] or [Suggestion] prefix in your thread name.



In case you object some action by a moderator, please contact him directly through PM and explain your concerns politely. If you are still unable to resolve the issue, contact an administrator. Do not drag these issues in public.



All rules are meant to augment common sense, please use them when not conflicted with aforementioned policies.
See more
See less

[Fixed] Fervor should trigger before attack begins.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • bu3ny
    replied
    Added.

    Leave a comment:


  • igo95862
    replied
    Alternative Valve can give first stack of fervor then first attack ends and remove stacks in the beginning of attack on new target

    Leave a comment:


  • igo95862
    replied
    Originally posted by RoflCat View Post

    EDIT2: Let's consider its biggest 'impact', at lv 7 where Troll have 36 Agi and can have lv 4 Fervor.

    With a front swing of .3
    A troll swinging at 36 + 34 IAS vs just 36 IAS will have:
    0.3/1.7 = 0.176
    0.3/1.36 = 0.220

    A difference of about 0.045s
    You are only talking about front swing. You need to compare total attack duration.
    1.7/136=1.25 seconds
    1.7/1.7=1 second
    The difference is 0.25 seconds which is really comparable.

    Leave a comment:


  • igo95862
    replied
    No he is not right. Here is a table:

    Skill
    DotA 1
    Dota 2
    1st attack
    0 attack speed
    0 attack speed
    2nd attack
    20 attack speed
    0 attack speed
    3rd attack
    40 attack speed
    20 attack speed
    4th attack
    60 attack speed
    40 attack speed
    Last edited by igo95862; 03-20-2014, 02:37 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • RoflCat
    replied
    http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...l=1#post477714

    .- .

    EDIT: If you mean so the attack speed affect that one attack, consider it another 'victim' of the shift that many on attack initiated effects affected.
    On the sorta plus side, since the 0.4s cd is removed, this means troll don't occasionally fail to build a stack because he's attacking too fast (around 290 IAS in melee form)

    EDIT2: Let's consider its biggest 'impact', at lv 7 where Troll have 36 Agi and can have lv 4 Fervor.

    With a front swing of .3
    A troll swinging at 36 + 34 IAS vs just 36 IAS will have:
    0.3/1.7 = 0.176
    0.3/1.36 = 0.220

    A difference of about 0.045s
    Last edited by RoflCat; 03-19-2014, 09:45 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • igo95862
    started a topic [Fixed] Fervor should trigger before attack begins.

    [Fixed] Fervor should trigger before attack begins.

    From my blog. RIP blogs 2014-2014

    Currenttly in dota 2 it triggers after your attack finishes. Your attack which will trigger fervor will not benefit from it.
    In dota 1 however it triggers right as attack starts and because you can change attack speed during attack fervor speeds up attack that triggers it. To prevent abuse with canceling your attack there is 0.4 cooldown.
    So in dota 2 fervor is much weaker because it's effect is delayed by one attack. To fix this issue Valve should make it trigger before attack begins but second stack of fevor should only be given if first attack finished. Even if attack speed bug will be fixed fevor will still be weaker.

    This is different case from backstab or desolate because they are about damage and there is much less difference then to apply effects. In case of Fervor there is direct nerf of this skill.

    Skill
    DotA 1
    Dota 2
    1st attack
    0 attack speed
    0 attack speed
    2nd attack
    20 attack speed
    0 attack speed
    3rd attack
    40 attack speed
    20 attack speed
    4th attack
    60 attack speed
    40 attack speed
    Last edited by igo95862; 03-20-2014, 02:37 PM.
Working...
X