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[Resolved] Omny's ulty didn't work this time against Void?

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  • [Resolved] Omny's ulty didn't work this time against Void?

    I just played a game and I picked omny to counter void. In last few teamfights few of his hits would go through my ulty? How is this possible?

    I even checked the combat log (when my ulty was active). I know a lot of damage comes from Mjollnir and Timelock but still...This is when my ulty was ACTIVE.
    First hit almost a whooping 250 damage("Faceless Void hits Bane for 241 damage")? How? Then again 180 damage etc.? Can someone explain? Void had daedalus, mkb and mjollnir.
    Mjollnir damage is stated as Mjollnir damage in combat log so these two lines are not Mjollnir damages. Also, timelock does a maximum of 140 (x2 in chrono) so how 240 and 180?

    This was all when my ulty was ACTIVE:

    [50:29.06] Bane receives Chronosphere debuff from Faceless Void.
    [50:30.43] Bane receives Stunned debuff from Faceless Void.
    [50:30.43] Faceless Void hits Bane for 241 damage (1878->1637).
    [50:30.46] Bane loses Stunned debuff.
    [50:31.00] Bane receives Time Lock debuff from Faceless Void.
    [50:31.00] Faceless Void hits Bane for 180 damage (1563->1383).
    [50:31.47] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 112 damage (1394->1282).
    [50:31.47] Faceless Void hits Bane for 105 damage (1282->1177).
    [50:32.47] Bane loses Time Lock debuff.
    [50:32.74] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 112 damage (772->660).
    [50:33.17] Bane receives Stunned debuff from Faceless Void.
    [50:33.17] Faceless Void hits Bane for 75 damage (555->480).
    [50:33.21] Bane loses Stunned debuff.
    [50:33.57] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 112 damage (479->367).
    [50:33.91] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 150 damage (286->136).
    [50:33.91] Faceless Void hits Bane with Ice Blast for 136 damage.
    [50:33.91] Bane is killed by Faceless Void!
    [50:34.38] Bane loses Chronosphere debuff.
    Last edited by NaZz68; 09-16-2014, 07:41 AM.

  • #2
    Match ID and timestamp, the combatlog you posted shows that the ult wasn't active (at least not in the end of Chronosphere, or else it would have said "Bane loses Guardian Angel buff").

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    • #3
      Sorry, I filtered posted combat log to only void and bane.
      [50:33.91] Bane loses Guardian Angel buff.

      Match ID: 899544762

      Time: 0:50:03

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NaZz68 View Post
        Sorry, I filtered posted combat log to only void and bane.
        [50:33.91] Bane loses Guardian Angel buff.

        Match ID: 899544762

        Time: 0:50:03
        If you filtered to only void and bane, it still should say that Bane loses Guardian Angel buff, like how it says that he loses Chronosphere debuff [50:34.38] Bane loses Chronosphere debuff.
        Please, just call me buny.

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        • #5
          [50:29.06] Bane receives Chronosphere debuff from Faceless Void.
          [50:29.83] Venomancer hits Bane with Poison Nova for 81 damage (1957->1876).
          [50:29.83] Bane receives Poison Nova debuff from Venomancer.
          [50:30.43] Bane receives Stunned debuff from Faceless Void.
          [50:30.43] Faceless Void hits Bane for 241 damage (1878->1637).<----------------------- 1 attack happened before you used your ulti
          [50:30.46] Bane loses Stunned debuff.
          [50:30.80] Bane receives Guardian Angel buff from Omniknight.
          [50:30.83] Venomancer hits Bane with Poison Nova for 81 damage (1638->1557).
          [50:31.00] Bane receives Time Lock debuff from Faceless Void.
          [50:31.00] Faceless Void hits Bane for 180 damage (1563->1383). <------------------- Timelock+Monkey King Bar ((70*70+100)*0.75=180)
          [50:31.47] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 112 damage (1394->1282).
          [50:31.47] Faceless Void hits Bane for 105 damage (1282->1177). <-------------------- Timelock (70*2*0.75=105)
          [50:31.83] Venomancer hits Bane with Poison Nova for 81 damage (1188->1107).
          [50:31.90] Bane receives Frostbitten debuff from Ancient Apparition.
          [50:31.90] Ancient Apparition hits Bane with Ice Blast for 337 damage (1109->772). <--- Well timed, it looks like the damage comes from Void's attack, but it was Iceblast
          [50:32.47] Bane loses Time Lock debuff.
          50:32.74] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 112 damage (772->660). <------- Same as above. Look at the timestamps of this 3. Mjollnir, Ice Blast and Poison Nova ticks happened in the same second.
          [50:32.84] Venomancer hits Bane with Poison Nova for 81 damage (660->579).
          [50:32.90] Ancient Apparition hits Bane with Ice Blast for 24 damage (579->555).

          [50:33.17] Bane receives Stunned debuff from Faceless Void.
          [50:33.17] Faceless Void hits Bane for 75 damage (555->480). <---------------------- Monkey King Bar (100*0.75=75)
          [50:33.21] Bane loses Stunned debuff.
          [50:33.57] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 112 damage (479->367). <------------- Again very well timed. Poison Nova, chain lightning, and ontop of that, even Static Charge happened to trigger on the same second.
          [50:33.84] Venomancer hits Bane with Poison Nova for 81 damage (367->286).
          [50:33.91] Faceless Void hits Bane with Mjollnir for 150 damage (286->136).

          [50:33.91] Bane loses Frostbitten debuff.
          [50:33.91] Bane loses Guardian Angel buff.
          [50:33.91] Bane loses Poison Nova debuff.
          [50:33.91] Faceless Void hits Bane with Ice Blast for 136 damage. <------------------------- The Mjollnir proc brought Bane's hp below Ice Blast shatter threshold and thefore Void got the kill.
          [50:33.91] Bane is killed by Faceless Void!
          Last edited by bu3ny; 09-16-2014, 08:49 AM.
          Please, just call me buny.

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          • #6
            [50:31.00] Faceless Void hits Bane for 180 damage (1563->1383). <------------------- Timelock+Monkey King Bar ((70*70+100)*0.75=180)[/QUOTE]

            Thanks for explaining. MKB hits (100) are independent of Timelock hits, right?
            Chance that they both happen in the same hit is around 9% so may I say this was one hell of a lucky hit?

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            • #7
              Yea, they have fully independant chances to proc. The chance for both to proc on the same it is roughly at 8.75% (disregarding prd). They both add damage to your attack directly and Chronosphere doubles Timelock's damage. Together with 25% magic res, it's exactly 180 from them.
              Please, just call me buny.

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