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  • Ursa + Echo Sabre

    Bugged!
    Doesn't work with ursa 2nd skill

  • #2
    How do you expect it to work?
    Spoiler: 
    I guard the rear.

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    • #3
      Ursa give 6 attacks in max level, the echo sabre starts cd but dont give a extra attack, woks only if ursa it's doing a normal attack.

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      • #4
        This is the description i got from gamepedia
        Causes melee attacks to attack twice in quick succession. The double attacks apply a 0.6 second 100% movement and attack speed slow on each strike.
        Upon proccing, grants the user 490 attack speed until the next attack.
        This means it does not provide guaranteed full attack speed and can be countered by strong attack speed slows.
        It is not like moment of courage on legion commander. It just makes your character attack very quickly.

        So it's more useful to let echo sabre go on cooldown, and then use overpower, so that the two don't overlap, because if echo sabre goes off during overpower, it's essentially wasted.
        Last edited by Assguard; 05-02-2016, 09:20 PM.
        Spoiler: 
        I guard the rear.

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        • #5
          I dont agree with you, if ursa attack fast with overpower, the echo sabre need to give 1 extra attack in the last or in the first attack, or do not starts cd in the item until overpower buff finish.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bryan_willey View Post
            I dont agree with you, if ursa attack fast with overpower, the echo sabre need to give 1 extra attack in the last or in the first attack, or do not starts cd in the item until overpower buff finish.
            Does it? Both ability and item are working perfectly, by giving you an attack speed boost for a set duration. They simply don't stack. By your logic, BKB's Spell Immunity should be paused on heroes that use Repel/Rage/Blade Fury.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kazzymodus View Post
              Does it? Both ability and item are working perfectly, by giving you an attack speed boost for a set duration. They simply don't stack. By your logic, BKB's Spell Immunity should be paused on heroes that use Repel/Rage/Blade Fury.
              I want only one thing, use overpower with echo sabre and cause 7 stacks of fury swipes in the enemy.

              Actually cause only 6 stacks, the normal overpower buff attack count.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bryan_willey View Post
                Actually cause only 6 stacks, the normal overpower buff attack count.
                It creates a stack every time an attack lands. Getting two stacks for one attack is ridiculous.

                If two mechanics don't stack, they don't. Players shouldn't be rewarded for not taking this into account. If it's common sense not to build a Vanguard on Tidehunter, why doesn't the same apply to Ursa and Echo Sabre?

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                • #9
                  There's really no reason why it should add an attack to overpower.
                  Spoiler: 
                  I guard the rear.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Assguard View Post
                    There's really no reason why it should add an attack to overpower.
                    Did you test in demo hero?

                    Echo Sabre start a cd, but dont give the extra attack. Check and you'll see.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bryan_willey View Post
                      Did you test in demo hero?

                      Echo Sabre start a cd, but dont give the extra attack. Check and you'll see.
                      You don't understand how Attack Speed works.

                      Echo Sabre gives you +490 attack speed until the next attack. Empower gives you +400 attack speed for the duration. Attack Speed is capped at 600, so together they will give you +500 attack speed (890 combined, capped at 600) and that's it. Both of them work perfectly fine.

                      Your suggestion is just as ludicrous as suggesting using Orchid on a Silenced target should add five seconds to the current Silence.

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                      • #12
                        The only confusing thing is why he doesn't understand that the items are interacting correctly. it's probably the "double attack" line that is he is assuming things about.
                        Spoiler: 
                        I guard the rear.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kazzymodus View Post
                          You don't understand how Attack Speed works.

                          Echo Sabre gives you +490 attack speed until the next attack. Empower gives you +400 attack speed for the duration. Attack Speed is capped at 600, so together they will give you +500 attack speed (890 combined, capped at 600) and that's it. Both of them work perfectly fine.

                          Your suggestion is just as ludicrous as suggesting using Orchid on a Silenced target should add five seconds to the current Silence.

                          I agree with you bro.

                          Close the topic.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bryan_willey View Post
                            I dont agree with you, if ursa attack fast with overpower, the echo sabre need to give 1 extra attack in the last or in the first attack, or do not starts cd in the item until overpower buff finish.
                            what about the slow? so the slow should not take effect just becaseu I have over power buff????????

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Assguard View Post
                              The only confusing thing is why he doesn't understand that the items are interacting correctly. it's probably the "double attack" line that is he is assuming things about.
                              yea

                              I actually thought it might be like moment of courage lol

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