Invoker's tornado disabling doomed units.

[Acid Snow]

Tornado currently disables a unit by throwing it into the air, and then deals damage to it upon falling back to earth.

I think it should be the other way around: dealing damage and then disabling. ...Because it's currently annoying to have to wait for Tornado's duration to end - to finally have the unit fall to its death. Aren't units that are disabled by Eul's/Tornado 100% invulnerable, and have their stats frozen? So if they weren't gunna survive the fall afterwards, might we kill them beforehand?

Having to wait through the duration of Tornado's disable, and then discover the unit was already gunna die is (IMO) a boring time-waster.

[orcithetester]

It's simply a drawback of the spell and you need to plan accordingly to use it effectively. Last I heard, going a hundred feet up in the air doesn't hurt, but falling back onto solid ground from that same height does. Gravity doesn't really work in mysterious ways.

[TwoHourMotel]

It's not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop at the end.

[DLRevan]

Tornado currently disables a unit by throwing it into the air, and then deals damage to it upon falling back to earth.

I think it should be the other way around: dealing damage and then disabling. ...Because it's currently annoying to have to wait for Tornado's duration to end - to finally have the unit fall to its death. Aren't units that are disabled by Eul's/Tornado 100% invulnerable, and have their stats frozen? So if they weren't gunna survive the fall afterwards, might we kill them beforehand?

Having to wait through the duration of Tornado's disable, and then discover the unit was already gunna die is (IMO) a boring time-waster.

They arent 100% invulnerable, or at least they're not supposed to be. EMP is a good example, though it works differently/is bugged in Dota 2 atm.

[ValeN]

They arent 100% invulnerable, or at least they're not supposed to be. EMP is a good example, though it works differently/is bugged in Dota 2 atm.

This is not correct. They ARE invulnerable, which means they take no damage. Thing is direct HP removal is not considered damage by the engine.

The problem with tornado is that in dota 1 they take the damage after the cyclone duration, WITH NO DELAY, and in dota 2 there is delay. There is no point in this thread, this is how tornado works and that's that.

[DLRevan]

This is not correct. They ARE invulnerable, which means they take no damage. Thing is direct HP removal is not considered damage by the engine.

I understand that. But because of the way HP removal works, technically something that is 'invulnerable' as we understand it in the WC3 engine is not totally invulnerable as we define it in reality. Thats all i meant.

Speaking of which, either invulnerability or HP removal seems to be borked, because invulnerable units in Dota 2 seem to take no damage at all even from direct hp removal.

EDIT: That u already pointed out in the main section. Didnt read that thread till now, oops.