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How Does Backtrack work and interact with IceBlast ?

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  • How Does Backtrack work and interact with IceBlast ?

    Pls correct me if i am wrong....
    As far as i know:


    Backtrack is a triggered heal that heals you right before you are damaged, with the same amount of damage.This is the case in d1

    My Questions:
    Does is work the same way in d2?
    IceBlast stops anykind of heal/regen, can it stop triggered heals too?
    *If the answer to these two are both YES;
    **Does IceBlast disable Faceless Void from backtracking?(both in d1 and d2)->Void can backtrack any damage recieved while he is under Ice Blast effect in d2, what about d1?
    While i am asking questions about backtrack;
    in d1 when windrunner focus fires on void whenever void backtracks a damage he would get healed( %30 heal from focus fire ,%100 dmg from FF, %100 heal from backtrack = 100-100-30= -30% =profit for void
    ->Just tested void vs windrunner thing; i don't think it works as it did in d1 void didnt get any extra heal from backtracking focus fire damage)
    Last edited by dobacetr; 02-12-2012, 08:27 AM. Reason: added some answers by using "->"
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    In order:
    -Don't know, but most likely no.
    -Nope, DotA1 Ice Blast check every 0.02s, Triggered Heal work instantly when the damage occur so it's done its job before Ice Blast trigger check.

    The Void vs WR is probably more of an engine fix, since that interaction only happens when WR doesn't have Agha.
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    • #3
      yeah, i think they changed the way backtrack works completely and playdota Ice Blast says : HP freeze prevents most kinds of healing including those from skills or items.
      maybe the reason it says "most" is that it doesn't prevent triggered heals...
      about "-Nope, DotA1 Ice Blast check every 0.02s, Triggered Heal work instantly when the damage occur so it's done its job before Ice Blast trigger check."
      doesn't mekansm heal instantly too?i remember meka not workingwhen ice blasted.
      The truth about DotA and VALVe... Some VALVe employees loved to play DotA and created a team. With this team they participated in a tournament, but they lost horribly...

      "We lost??? No way.... WE ARE GONNA MAKE OUR OWN GAME SO WE CAN OWN!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dobacetr View Post
        about "-Nope, DotA1 Ice Blast check every 0.02s, Triggered Heal work instantly when the damage occur so it's done its job before Ice Blast trigger check."
        doesn't mekansm heal instantly too?i remember meka not workingwhen ice blasted.
        What I mean is this:
        Ice Blast check every 0.02s for your current HP, if it's lower than before, it store the new value. If it's higher, it set your HP to the stored value.
        Since the triggered heal does its healing right when the damage occur, by the time IB check again, your HP would still be the same.

        With Mek, you'll heal to higher than the stored value, then get reduced when the check run again (although this means it's possible for a scenario to occur where you heal and take damage between the checks, thus benefited from the heal somewhat)
        Every time someone make a false report.
        Making people's losses feel worse with just my name (don't ask me how it work, I certainly don't)

        Currently observed Orb(Unique Attack Modifiers), Critical, and Bash interactions for DotA2

        To:
        People who cry MM isn't fair: Maybe you're not as great as you make yourself to be.
        People who wants surrender: It exists, but I'm not teaching you how to do it.

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        • #5
          oh srry, i totaly missunderstood what you said there now i get it, it's fine with triggered heals because it doesn't increase your hp, it keeps it the same...
          The truth about DotA and VALVe... Some VALVe employees loved to play DotA and created a team. With this team they participated in a tournament, but they lost horribly...

          "We lost??? No way.... WE ARE GONNA MAKE OUR OWN GAME SO WE CAN OWN!"

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