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Disruptor's "Glimpse" waited untill after Naga's "Song of the Siren" ended to TP...

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  • Acid Snow
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    Yeah I know Glimpse has massive range... If Arxos says he tested all possible scenarios with no result, then I must be at fault, Disruptor must have cast Glimpse on me while outside of my ulti-aoe; I must have just thought that I saw & caught him in my aoe. Oh well, my bad, I must have underestimate how long 4 seconds is

    I suppose this topic may be closed.

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  • havoc2
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    Glimpse has a HUGE range. It sounds logical that he pulled you back. This does not seem like a bug at all. You slept them and walked out... he casted it on you when your ulti ended/out of range and brought you back. People dont realise how long 4 seconds is in game. its actually quite a while lol. So yeh seems to be there is no bug.

    take this from someone who likes to play disruptor a lot and knows how glimpse works.

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  • poochop
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    I'm gonna guess, that 7 seconds earlier, you were standing next to Disruptor. You take 3 seconds to walk out of his range which wakes him up. He casts glimpse on you as you keep walking, but you don't notice. a couple seconds later, you get teleported back to where you were 7 seconds ago. (Total cast time is ~2 seconds to bring you back where you were 4 seconds ago). Makes sense, I smell no bug.

    I think sleep range is 1200 and glimpse range is 1800, so it's highly probable that he casted it on you and you didn't notice. Either way Glimpse isn't INSTANT, so when you say BOOM, you got teleported, it's more like, he casted it on you a couple seconds back while you were walking away, and then BOOM you got teleported.

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  • Arxos
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    I tried all those possibilities thoroughly.
    No, it doesn't mess up the timer.
    No, it doesn't sleep the projectile.

    I think you just underestimated the distance you moved in 4 seconds.

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  • Zath
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    Keep in mind that Glimpse has a 1800 range at lvl 4, it is possible that the bug is that he casted it after you ulted and that sleep messes up it's 4 second timer.

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  • Acid Snow
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    Originally posted by Baloroth View Post
    Either way, the spell didn't land on you till after your ult happened, right?
    I don't think so,
    ...Disruptor and most of his team were defending their center tower @ river, then I run in & Ulti -> I dance around them for ~5s just being a dick, then I begin walking away as my Ulti nears its' end. ...Finally when my Ulti does end, I'm already on my side of the river, next to my tower!

    But all the sudden "BOOM" I get teleported way back to their tower -- I was standing at that position some ~7 seconds earlier, and Disruptor was SLEEPING in my Ulti, so there was no way for him to have cast Glimpse on me after I Ultied, because I would have just glimpsed back in front of my tower (the position where my Ulti ended).

    Thus, I must have been Glimpsed BEFORE I Ulti'd, I even remember seeing Disruptor walk up to his tower as I was about to use my Ulti; so he must have just cast Glimpse on me before I slept them all Maybe I put the "Glimpse projectile" to sleep too???
    Last edited by Acid Snow; 09-04-2012, 01:36 PM.

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  • Zath
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    We don't need a replay if someone can reproduce it it seems simple to do so, have Disrutor Glimpse then Naga ult.

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  • Arxos
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    Replay is unavailable indeed. I can't reproduce this anyhow. I tried casting glimpse during Naga Siren's cast time, tried casting glimpse after she teleports in or just walks past and then sleeping before the projectile arrives. In all cases, Glimpse worked correctly.

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  • Baloroth
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    That doesn't make any sense, your ult doesn't affect you in any way. I can't watch the replay, but what I would assume happened is he started casting it, you ulted, and when the ult wore off, he just did the last thing the hero was commanded to, which was cast Glimpse on you. Or he was spamming it on you and did it as soon as he awoke. Either way, the spell didn't land on you till after your ult happened, right?

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  • Acid Snow
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    Thanks julio_gabriel,
    The match ID # is: 37361250

    I was obviously Naga Siren, and it happens at the middle lane, the game lasted 26 mins, and it happens somewhere in the second-half of the game. ...DotA 2 is telling me the replay is "unavailable."

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  • julio_gabriel
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    Originally posted by Acid Snow View Post
    I searched for the game/match ID, but due to whatever reason matches aren't being saved in Recent History. ...I dunno if that has been fixed yet, I haven't played in a few days. I read a topic on PlayDotA that confirmed matches weren't saving in recent history.
    You can see your recent history on https://dotabuff.com/

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  • Acid Snow
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    Originally posted by Eric37073 View Post
    match id
    I searched for the game/match ID, but due to whatever reason matches aren't being saved in Recent History. ...I dunno if that has been fixed yet, I haven't played in a few days. I read a topic on PlayDotA that confirmed matches weren't saving in recent history.

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  • Eric37073
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    match id

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  • Disruptor's "Glimpse" waited untill after Naga's "Song of the Siren" ended to TP...

    I was Naga Siren, and used my Ulti to sleep the entire enemy team's gank. ...But I didn't realize Disruptor had already cast Glimpse on me before I Ulti'd, and when Disruptor woke up, his Glimpse spell also woke up and teleported me back ~9 seconds into the past.

    This must be a bug. ...Because it's not like Song of the Siren PAUSES the cooldown [refresh rate] of the enemy spell's, enemy spells are still cooling down while they are asleep; so this means Disruptor could theoretically cast Glimps again on me right as I spawn back on him.

    Glimpse should not "fall asleep" when Naga uses her Ulti on Disruptor. Glimpse should follow though just like any other spell; instead of waiting till after Naga's Ulti ends to continue casting.

    EDIT:
    Thanks julio_gabriel,
    The match ID # is: 37361250

    I was obviously Naga Siren, and it happens at the middle lane, the game lasted 26 mins, and it happens somewhere in the second-half of the game. ...DotA 2 is telling me the replay is "unavailable."
    Last edited by Acid Snow; 09-04-2012, 11:14 AM.
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