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  • Originally posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    when having MoM and satanic on the same hero, in order to have the 25% lifeleech from satanic I have to drop both and pick up satanic first, right?

    and using the active abilities of both items doesnt change this (aside from the short duration of 175% lifeleech gain ofc), right?
    Yes you need to pick up Satanic first to keep the lifesteal.

    I can't be certain on the active, but I believe the last time I tested it, Satanic's active simply change the lifesteal value on it to 175% instead of the normal 25%

    Which means if you don't have satanic as your active orb already, activating satanic will not do anything except waste the cooldown.

    Again though, I haven't test it recently (and it's almost 2 weeks to go before I can play dota2 again)
    Every time someone make a false report.
    Making people's losses feel worse with just my name (don't ask me how it work, I certainly don't)

    Currently observed Orb(Unique Attack Modifiers), Critical, and Bash interactions for DotA2

    To:
    People who cry MM isn't fair: Maybe you're not as great as you make yourself to be.
    People who wants surrender: It exists, but I'm not teaching you how to do it.

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    • The OP should be updated to reflect the fact that sniper's headshot can proc on magic immune units now.

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      • already mentioned, but cant we get lifesteal orb (also actually also desolator) overriding heros innate orb abilities when such an items gets bought? I like that the new changes in dota 2 offer so much more freedom to the player in getting different orbs to work compated to allstars. but in case of lifeleech thats rather a little regression. I sometimes just like to get in on heros with innate orbs, no matter whether its actual more effective or not. its fun at least. I also dont see why this should be a big problem, if you dont want to have your innate orbs being overriden by lifesteal simply dont buy any lifesteal orb item. I dont see why this possibility isnt offered to us in the game.
        Last edited by Thunderbolt; 04-16-2013, 06:13 PM.

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        • Note to self when it comes:


          Slardar
          - Bash damage type from magical to physical
          Every time someone make a false report.
          Making people's losses feel worse with just my name (don't ask me how it work, I certainly don't)

          Currently observed Orb(Unique Attack Modifiers), Critical, and Bash interactions for DotA2

          To:
          People who cry MM isn't fair: Maybe you're not as great as you make yourself to be.
          People who wants surrender: It exists, but I'm not teaching you how to do it.

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          • Originally posted by RoflCat View Post

            Crit:
            When multiple critical occurs, the highest multiplier take priority, end of story. (Yes, it's that simple, hooray)
            Monkey King Bar's Truestrike is no longer a critical in DotA2, feel free to never again discuss whether it 'stack with X'

            By request of shalafi, some bonus damage's interaction with crits (Lifesteal will heal you for the final damage):
            Source Can Cleave Can Crit Can Lifesteal
            Kunkka - Tidebringer Yes Yes Yes
            Bounty Hunter - Shadow Walk No No No
            Shadowblade - Windwalk Yes No Yes
            Viper - Nethertoxin - Yes Yes
            Naix - Feast No No Yes
            Diffusal Blade No No No
            Antimage - Mana Break No No Yes
            Riki - Backstab No No Yes
            Ursa - Fury Swipe No No Yes
            Chaos Knight - Reality Rift Yes Yes Yes
            NOTE: The orb that says Yes on Lifesteal require you to have some way of gaining the lifesteal that's not an orb (Vlad aura, Skeleton King)
            your post is confusing yo. "the orb that says Yes on Lifesteal require you to have some way of gaining the lifesteal that's not an orb (vlad aura, skeleton king).

            first of all, vladmir and skeleton king aura should work on all melee unit regarding any orb/UAM. This includes diffusals, which totally works with vladmir/vampiric aura which you state as NO

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            • @ saryu: He wants to explain wether the bonus damage of the said passives (f.e. diffusals feedback damage) can be leached with some sort of life steal.

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              • Good post :3

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                • am i the only one who expirienced manaburn on antimage overriding skadi on main hero after recent updates? i've been using skadi + manta combo for a long time, and now i'm not able to
                  Last edited by illustris; 08-03-2013, 04:03 AM.

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                  • Table showing wrong... I think

                    The table showing that bonus damage from shadowblade would not multiple by critical strike, but when I playing with Bounty Hunter, Jinada multiple along with bonus damage from shadowblade. I am not sure current patch still like that or not, because I'm already 1 month did not play it.
                    Last edited by thehand; 12-10-2013, 02:18 AM. Reason: more clear

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                    • Originally posted by thehand View Post
                      The table showing that bonus damage from shadowblade would not multiple by critical strike, but when I playing with Bounty Hunter, Jinada multiple along with bonus damage from shadowblade. I am not sure current patch still like that or not, because I'm already 1 month did not play it.
                      Well, I can't login right now so I'll double-check it later, but here's what I know back when I tested it last time.


                      The bonus damage is added after the critical multiplier.

                      For example, if it's multiplied by crit, say you have a 100 damage BH with lv 1 Jinada for 1.5x, a SB hit would do (100 + 150) * 1.5 = 375 damage

                      In its current (as of the last time I tested it) state it does (100 * 1.5) + 150 = 300 damage.
                      Every time someone make a false report.
                      Making people's losses feel worse with just my name (don't ask me how it work, I certainly don't)

                      Currently observed Orb(Unique Attack Modifiers), Critical, and Bash interactions for DotA2

                      To:
                      People who cry MM isn't fair: Maybe you're not as great as you make yourself to be.
                      People who wants surrender: It exists, but I'm not teaching you how to do it.

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                      • when having lifeleec (satanic) and difusial on an image hero, in order to make my hero leech life and have my images burn mana, not only the order of picking up those 2 items (satanic first) is important, but also the inventory slot priority placement (difusial needs to have a higher slot priority than satanic or mana burn wont work with your images). has it always been like that in dota 2, the 2nd part with the slot placement in addition to order of picking up?

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                        • I did not understand the part saying oldest orb. So how does lifesteal and desolater interact for example?

                          Another question is does skadi and lifesteal stack for melee heroes as well?

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                          • Originally posted by Sapta View Post
                            I did not understand the part saying oldest orb. So how does lifesteal and desolater interact for example?

                            Another question is does skadi and lifesteal stack for melee heroes as well?
                            The one that's in your inventory the longest.
                            Lifesteal OR Desolator will work, you can 'switch' them by dropping the one that's currently active and pick the item back up.


                            And yes on Skadi/Lifesteal on melee.
                            Every time someone make a false report.
                            Making people's losses feel worse with just my name (don't ask me how it work, I certainly don't)

                            Currently observed Orb(Unique Attack Modifiers), Critical, and Bash interactions for DotA2

                            To:
                            People who cry MM isn't fair: Maybe you're not as great as you make yourself to be.
                            People who wants surrender: It exists, but I'm not teaching you how to do it.

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                            • Does Eye of Skadi stack with DK's dragon form frost breath?

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