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[Unconfirmed] Rubick & 6.78 agha global silence

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  • Pyros
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    A better comparison is Luna's ult. If you steal it, it casts with the Beam rank of Luna at the time of the steal, not a 0 dmg ult. Curse of the Silent with Agh works exactly the same way, so probably should do the same thing. Also to note that rubick does steal Agh versions of spells so that's not an issue either.

    I went and checked in dota1 however and it works the same way, stealing the agh version still doesn't apply curse of the silent even though the tooltip suggests it should. Might be a dota1 bug though, up to Icefrog to decides how it should work.

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  • MaKacknAffe
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    well some of the spells listen in post #3 are not the same because if iam not wrong witchcraft directly upgrades the spell itself and SF ulti is just useless without these effects but there is no agha involved anyway

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  • Belarion
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    And in dota 1 it does not apply curse of the silent

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  • Arxos
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    Originally posted by jam3972 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I agree that the logic is sound that it should inherit the same effects as silencer has, but ultimately what matters most is how it works in dota 1
    Rubick's Spellsteal is already drastically different from Dota 1, honestly it's not a useful reference at this point.

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  • jam3972
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    Originally posted by Arxos View Post
    In general Rubick steals these spells using the current level of the hero he has stolen it from.
    You'll see that abilities from Death Prophet are boosted according to her level of Witchcraft, and that Spirit Breakers charge and ultimate use his current level of Greater Bash, a stolen Shadow Fiend ultimate will even use the amount of souls Shadow Fiend had.

    There's a couple of exceptions, Rubick doesn't benefit from Lone Druid's level of Synergy, and Rubick doesn't benefit from Ogre Magi's level of Multicast in regards to Ignite. Apart from that however, any abilities that enhance abilities on heroes are stolen along with the spells that Rubick steals.

    Considering the amount of spells where this is and isn't the case, I'd say it's pretty safe to say it's intended to steal the current level of enhancing abilities, making this and the ones I mentioned bugs.
    Don't get me wrong, I agree that the logic is sound that it should inherit the same effects as silencer has, but ultimately what matters most is how it works in dota 1

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  • Arxos
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    Originally posted by jam3972 View Post
    Pretty sure it is based on silencer's current level of CotS. since Rubick doesn't have cots he doesn't get that effect?

    anyone able to test dota 1 interaction?
    In general Rubick steals these spells using the current level of the hero he has stolen it from.
    You'll see that abilities from Death Prophet are boosted according to her level of Witchcraft, and that Spirit Breakers charge and ultimate use his current level of Greater Bash, a stolen Shadow Fiend ultimate will even use the amount of souls Shadow Fiend had.

    There's a couple of exceptions, Rubick doesn't benefit from Lone Druid's level of Synergy, and Rubick doesn't benefit from Ogre Magi's level of Multicast in regards to Ignite. Apart from that however, any abilities that enhance abilities on heroes are stolen along with the spells that Rubick steals.

    Considering the amount of spells where this is and isn't the case, I'd say it's pretty safe to say it's intended to steal the current level of enhancing abilities, making this and the ones I mentioned bugs.

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  • jam3972
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    Pretty sure it is based on silencer's current level of CotS. since Rubick doesn't have cots he doesn't get that effect?

    anyone able to test dota 1 interaction?

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  • Renita
    started a topic [Unconfirmed] Rubick & 6.78 agha global silence

    [Unconfirmed] Rubick & 6.78 agha global silence

    Rubick spellstealing Silencer ultimate with Silencer having Aghanims does not give Rubick the Aghanims effect but just the silence. Didn't see this on the list so I thought I would add it here.
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