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    Update: 14-5-2012
    Have edited the thread title, I've talked with some of my friends who work with some ISP's here and their general response was that that the routes can't be optimised for everyone. So now requesting a server for a South Asia server for us Pakistani, Indian, Srilankan and other folks.

    You can see a clear difference between the routes. SO PLEASE I URGE YOU TO LOOK INTO THE MATTER. Pakistan has a huge DotA following & it would be just sad that we cannot play properly.

    Regards


    Update: 28-8-2013
    @Pakistan PTCL USERS

    PTCL and valve have both turned up routing to SEA and all PTCL users should from now on be getting 80ms - 150ms ping to SEA servers. 80-90ms is for those who are from Karachi and have minimum local delay and it goes upto 140-150ms because the local delay is high, nothing can be done about that.

    p.s This change affects NayaTel users as well, if any NayaTel user isn't getting sub 150ms ping, please PM me.

    Update: 1-1-2017
    @Pakistan PTCL USERS

    PTCL and Valve now peer directly in Dubai and all PTCL users should be getting <80ms latency towards the Dubai server.
    Last edited by strikerx921; 01-01-2017, 01:21 AM.
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  • #2
    I'm from India and have pretty much the same issue.

    One other thing I have noticed is that usually when I start the first game of the day (against bots to warm up) I get 100 something ping to SEA servers but afterwards its always 300+ no matter which server I choose.

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    • #3
      @striker

      Yes that is a big issue which can be resolved with mutual coperation. And We will need valve being a responsible customer centric company which focuses on quality should be stepping ahead to resolve this issue.
      For a brief introduction. I work in the bigest ISP of Pakistan a.k.a PTCL. and on its behalf wanted to welcome valve to corespond in this regard.

      Please let me know from where you need to start or you need the IP Pools of Pakistan's customer base. Any local re-routing if required etc etc. Just Let me know.
      Works at Pakistan Telecommunication Corporate Ltd. as an IP Network CORE Engineer.

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      • #4
        bump.
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        • #5
          today server suckkkk!!

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          • #6
            Same lag from India too. 800+ pings. game is unplayable in SEA servers.

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            • #7
              Have you guys tried china servers?...seems like routing is bad in that part of the world.

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              • #8
                ^
                China is a different story altogether & I doubt that route can be fixed.
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                • #9
                  Keep bumping this
                  cause it will make playing dota for the players from the sub-continent nearly impossible.

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                  • #10
                    Play on euro servers? I get 160-180 ping there. Hardly makes a difference!

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                    • #11
                      ^
                      In fact it does, when the Malaysian server is not messing around its ping is about ~120'ish & I feel the delay has reduced, game feels more responsive. What we need is either the route be fixed to Singapore (SG servers are stable) or addition of Middle East servers.
                      Last edited by strikerx921; 01-01-2012, 02:45 AM.
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                      • #12
                        My output of tracing singapore server from India,
                        Code:
                        traceroute to 203.116.80.202 (203.116.80.202), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
                         1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  2.624 ms  1.395 ms  1.439 ms
                         2  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.347 ms  2.481 ms  2.166 ms
                         3  abts-kk-static-001.228.178.122.airtelbroadband.in (122.178.228.1)  27.141 ms  28.402 ms  27.356 ms
                         4  abts-kk-static-221.32.166.122.airtelbroadband.in (122.166.32.221)  24.577 ms  24.867 ms  24.606 ms
                         5  abts-kk-static-230.32.166.122.airtelbroadband.in (122.166.32.230)  24.810 ms  24.945 ms  25.697 ms
                         6  122.175.255.29 (122.175.255.29)  30.881 ms  31.158 ms  31.402 ms
                         7  aes-static-085.36.144.59.airtel.in (59.144.36.85)  65.550 ms  65.542 ms  65.291 ms
                         8  pos11-0.cr02.sin02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.165.213)  65.339 ms  74.898 ms  65.509 ms
                         9  tenge7-1.br01.hkg15.pccwbtn.net (63.218.60.226)  217.106 ms  131.685 ms  119.652 ms
                        10  starhub.tenge4-2.br01.hkg15.pccwbtn.net (63.218.211.14)  335.439 ms  307.113 ms  266.517 ms
                        11  vlan907-an-cat6k-ts2-r1.starhub.net.sg (203.118.3.217)  274.579 ms  374.598 ms  289.974 ms
                        12  gi8-1-0-an-ats-loc04.starhub.net.sg (203.118.7.11)  324.255 ms  302.821 ms  267.382 ms
                        13  * * *
                        14  * * *
                        So, it looks the packets go to starhub's US servers first and then it goes to Singapore. It is weird packet routing. But perhaps explains well, why ping is most of the time same to US and Singapore from India. Can valve do anything for this?

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                        • #13
                          Pretty sure valve can't do anything, which was my point. This route optimization is done by ISPs (i beleive) and valve as such cannot do anything.

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                          • #14
                            bump! i have encountered same issue.

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                            • #15
                              @DefiantFable
                              Awight! But Neither does ISP monitors it by its own(Customer having the servers have to request them). The valve Can't exactly do by itself but can definitely ask its Internet Service Provider to Reroute as they would be a big Corporate Customer for them. So we still demand the Valve people to consider taking some practical steps on it.

                              @gnufied
                              India & Pakistan are both linked to the world via Singapore (Mainly). So any that has to go out ...has to go through it Cuz they are what you call tier 1 ISPs.

                              @Valve & ALL
                              So in generaly this process is started when the corporate customer demands for it. And It goes from the Users(GAMER) Side to the Server(VALVE) Side. Each Router/hop is statically told to route and not but automatic route exports by EBGP. This adds processing to the routers over the world. And thus charged a bit from the requester! But that shouldn't be and issue with Valve being a responsible Business oriented Company!
                              Works at Pakistan Telecommunication Corporate Ltd. as an IP Network CORE Engineer.

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