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  • i5 system outperforms i7 system?

    Hey folks.
    Me and a friend have different laptops, and he still manages to max it, while I cant.
    My setup, i7 2630QM, AMD 6850M 1GB GDDR5, 6GB DDR3
    His system, i5 2450M, 6750M 1GB GDDR5, 6GB DDR.
    Both play in 1600x900.
    He hes a lower tier GPU, yet he is still able to use high videosettings with out fpsissues/stutters etc.

    Is the CPU that makes the difference, should I maybe only dedicate 2 cores to Dota2?
    Thanks for the help

  • #2
    something wrong with ur pc, using the same CPU as u do, and have everything on max with no real problem... update drivers and anything else, besides of that, dota cant run on 4 cores, it aint a 64 bits program but u wont really need much CPU usage for it anyway

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    • #3
      Software running? Software installed? HD speed? MB Quality? O/C? Drivers updated? Etc.

      There's lots of things that could cause the difference.
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      • #4
        Both systems are fairly new, no OC.
        Both have 7,2k rpm HDDs.
        Im usually only running skype, browser, and some music while gaming, shouldnt affect the video settings?

        I THINK (not sure) it was better 2 patches ago.
        All drivers are up to date (what I know, system is at top 1,5 months old)

        Mendes, do you also have a laptop or is it a desktop?
        Thank you for the answers

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        • #5
          Originally posted by timQ View Post
          Both systems are fairly new, no OC.
          Both have 7,2k rpm HDDs.
          Im usually only running skype, browser, and some music while gaming, shouldnt affect the video settings?

          I THINK (not sure) it was better 2 patches ago.
          All drivers are up to date (what I know, system is at top 1,5 months old)

          Mendes, do you also have a laptop or is it a desktop?
          Thank you for the answers
          The i7-2630QM is a laptop CPU.
          I really don't know what might cause your stuttering, but you just have to try out. I mean, either it's your drivers (If you updated them, make a rollback to default drivers to see if anything changes, or if you didn't update them).
          Scan your system for viruses.
          When your game stutters, take a look at CPU/GPU usage.
          And because you have a laptop I strongly suggest you to use a coolpad (for gaming).
          Does your game stutter every 2 minutes for like 20 seconds? That might be because your laptop gets too hot and your CPU throttles itself down too cool itself a little bit (I had the same problem, but I locked the multiplier now and no more throttling ).
          And there is a program called WinUtilities, it's free and good. You might wanna clean your windows registry for errors with it.
          (Scanning for viruses and cleaning registry is easier than reinstalling windows, though I'm afraid scanning for viruses on a large drive might take more time than reinstalling windows :P)
          I hope you find the reason
          Last edited by 7_ShininGAngel; 03-30-2012, 08:16 AM.

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          • #6
            What resolution are you guys playing on? That could be the main reason why.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 7_ShininGAngel View Post
              The i7-2630QM is a laptop CPU.
              I really don't know what might cause your stuttering, but you just have to try out. I mean, either it's your drivers (If you updated them, make a rollback to default drivers to see if anything changes, or if you didn't update them).
              Scan your system for viruses.
              When your game stutters, take a look at CPU/GPU usage.
              And because you have a laptop I strongly suggest you to use a coolpad (for gaming).
              Does your game stutter every 2 minutes for like 20 seconds? That might be because your laptop gets too hot and your CPU throttles itself down too cool itself a little bit (I had the same problem, but I locked the multiplier now and no more throttling ).
              And there is a program called WinUtilities, it's free and good. You might wanna clean your windows registry for errors with it.
              (Scanning for viruses and cleaning registry is easier than reinstalling windows, though I'm afraid scanning for viruses on a large drive might take more time than reinstalling windows :P)
              I hope you find the reason
              Not a virus/malware issue, not a heat/throttle issue, not a network issue, it just seems as the GPU/CPU performance isnt where it should...
              And its like...not running fluently with everything maxxed out.
              Ill do an FPS check when I get home for more info. Thansk for the answers.


              And to the other guy, I stated it was 1600x900, both off us.

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              • #8
                Alright, I checked it now. When I maxxed it, at 1920x1080, everything at high/on, I got a measly average of about 25 fps...sometimes lower. Any thoughts? :/

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                • #9
                  try another more graphical intensive game(if you have the means to do so) and see if you get lower fps than expected.You might also have a OS problem,higher privileged processes might overtake your cpu frequently.Also is your HDD full?That might cause issues with memory intensive programs.
                  Last edited by Martin Andrei; 03-30-2012, 11:03 AM.

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                  • #10
                    HDD is not full, 640gb, and 500 gb free. I dont play anything else besiedes Dota, so no can do there. My friend got around 50-60 fps with his rig :/ Maybe gonna erinstall the system. Any other tips / tricks?
                    Regards

                    Edit: Getting stable 60fps at lowest settings (vsync on), so its fully playable, but not possible to max it, with a better rig then my friend, bleh, this crap is driving me crazy
                    Last edited by timQ; 03-30-2012, 11:13 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by timQ View Post
                      HDD is not full, 640gb, and 500 gb free. I dont play anything else besiedes Dota, so no can do there. My friend got around 50-60 fps with his rig :/ Maybe gonna erinstall the system. Any other tips / tricks?
                      Regards
                      Well to get a bit tehnical you can measure the performance of you individual components with specialised programs(video and ram will prob suffice) and compare to what others with the same rigs have obtained(easier since you have a predetermined rig).Also there are easy guides on how to tweak your OS(i;m assuming win7 or so) that could get you some impressive performance boosts.

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                      • #12
                        Amd users:

                        The answer is very easy, you have a dual gpu system (an intel hd in the cpu + the amd gpu), and your friend has a single gpu system! Now the problem is that both dota 2 and both amd hates this kind of config. Amd doesn't even support them properly and they won't fix these problems! (it's official use google if you don't belive me)

                        So back to your problem, and the reason of your low performance is that your system simply didn't use the Amd gpu in Dota 2, just the Intel one!
                        http://leshcatlabs.net - You need to download a modded amd driver from here, that should fix the problem!

                        Nvidia Optimus users:

                        You need the newest Nvidia driver! After you download that force to use the Nvidia gpu in Nvidia Control Panel. If it doesn't work, then use the -nod3d9ex startup parameter and play in borderless window, this should work! (borderless window isn't a must but without it alt + tab could crash your game)
                        Last edited by tikshow; 05-25-2014, 02:57 AM. Reason: new, updated website for amd users
                        System #1 Spec for Bug Reporting:_____System #2 Spec for Bug Reporting:
                        ----------------------------------------_______..----------------------------------------
                        CPU: Intel Core Duo T2300______________á.CPU: Intel I7-3770K
                        GPU: ATI Mobility X1600________________á_GPU: Nvidia GTX-670
                        RAM: DDR2 667 2GB__________________iiáááRAM: DDR3 1600 16GB
                        OS: Win7 Ultimate 32bit___________________Win7 Ultimate 64bit
                        Res: 720p_______________________________.Res: 1080p

                        Net: 25Mbit/1,5Mbit

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tikshow View Post
                          the answer is very easy, you have a dual gpu system (an intel hd in the cpu + the amd gpu), and your friend has a single gpu system! now the problem is that both dota 2 and both amd hates this kind of config. amd doesn't even support them properly and they won't fix these problems! (it's official use google if you don't belive me) so back to your problem, and the reason of your low performance is that your sytem simply didn't use the amd card in dota 2, just the intel one! search in this forum for "dual gpu" or in my posts, and you are going to find a site where you can download these moded drivers and these are going to fix your problems!
                          Oh, if it only was that easy. Im 100% sure im running AMD gpu, atleast says so.

                          Edit: Read your post, and im trying to download the latest driver, lets pray! If it works, ill love you forever!
                          Last edited by timQ; 03-30-2012, 12:25 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by timQ View Post
                            Oh, if it only was that easy. Im 100% sure im running AMD gpu, atleast says so.

                            Edit: Read your post, and im trying to download the latest driver, lets pray! If it works, ill love you forever!
                            DON'T USE THE OFFICIAL AMD DRIVER IT DOESN'T GOING TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS!!!!!
                            System #1 Spec for Bug Reporting:_____System #2 Spec for Bug Reporting:
                            ----------------------------------------_______..----------------------------------------
                            CPU: Intel Core Duo T2300______________á.CPU: Intel I7-3770K
                            GPU: ATI Mobility X1600________________á_GPU: Nvidia GTX-670
                            RAM: DDR2 667 2GB__________________iiáááRAM: DDR3 1600 16GB
                            OS: Win7 Ultimate 32bit___________________Win7 Ultimate 64bit
                            Res: 720p_______________________________.Res: 1080p

                            Net: 25Mbit/1,5Mbit

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tikshow View Post
                              DON'T USE THE OFFICIAL AMD DRIVER IT DOESN'T GOING TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS!!!!!
                              You sir, helped me alot. It freaking works now, everything maxed out, 50-60 fps!!!!
                              Thank you!
                              Kisses, hugs!!!!

                              (is there any other way to raise your fps, so it goes steadily 60? some settings, as in CS?)
                              Last edited by timQ; 03-30-2012, 01:15 PM.

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