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  • Facial expressions broken?

    I've noticed on both the normal and the test client that on a lot of portraits heroes don't have facial expressions like for laughing or flinching when getting hurt for example. Instead of laughing they'll just have a dead stare and open their mouths according to the voice line for example.

    I've noticed it on Pudge, Lina, Luna and Windrunner, but that's probably not the full list.

  • #2
    Skywrath Mage also has this problem.

    I feel much better knowing that this is a general problem, though! Hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

    P.S. - I'm a new poster.
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    • #3
      Me again, I want to say that Drow Ranger also has this problem.

      Furthermore, I can back up Marik's observation of this problem on Windranger (nee Windrunner). Also, at least in her case, Hero Cosmetics aren't the problem (just thought I'd check on that).

      Next time I play, I'll try more of the characters I like and post my findings.
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      • #4
        Possible repro?

        I've tested 8 humanoid characters, and 5 of them stopped blinking once I selected another hero and switched back, giving them the dead stare. When you load into the game with them, they blink just fine on their portrait, but once you select another hero, dead stare. Seems similar to that bug where dead heroes go bald when you click on a different portrait and switch back.

        This has worked with Lina, Skywrath, Venge, Wraith King, Mirana, but not with Lion, Witch Doctor or Windranger (the latter of whom I've definitely seen with the blank stare before), so it's probably not the only trigger.

        Also in general none of them seem to have facial expressions for laughing anymore (regardless of the blinking thing), it's just their mouth opening and closing to the sound.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Marik Bentusi View Post
          Possible repro?

          I've tested 8 humanoid characters, and 5 of them stopped blinking once I selected another hero and switched back, giving them the dead stare. When you load into the game with them, they blink just fine on their portrait, but once you select another hero, dead stare. Seems similar to that bug where dead heroes go bald when you click on a different portrait and switch back.

          This has worked with Lina, Skywrath, Venge, Wraith King, Mirana, but not with Lion, Witch Doctor or Windranger (the latter of whom I've definitely seen with the blank stare before), so it's probably not the only trigger.

          Also in general none of them seem to have facial expressions for laughing anymore (regardless of the blinking thing), it's just their mouth opening and closing to the sound.
          Wow, really? I've actually thought about blinking, but I should pay more attention next time.

          Anyhoo, Mirana, Enchantress, and Crystal Maiden are broken (the first two have no Bot support, so we can rule that possibility out)...though I think it's safe to say at this point that probably pretty much everyone who had facial expressions before don't now.

          Next time I play, I'll test out the possible blinking glitch.
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          • #6
            The blinking is just the main tell I used to quickly verify the facial animations broke, it also gives them the unfocused stare and removes some face-related idle animations like WR parting her lips every now and then.

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            • #7
              Me again! Here are my latest findings:

              First of all, I played Skywrath Mage, and I wanted to not left-click on anyone to see if that made a difference in his expressions, but I accidentally clicked the Radiant Fountain first thing! He dead stared for the rest of the match after that.

              Next, I played Mirana, and I made sure not to left-click on anyone or anything else. I noticed that while she had no laugh/pain/anger/etc. expressions, her eyes blinked and her mouth opened and closed (idly, as opposed to talking) normally. Then, after awhile, I left-clicked on Lina (enemy Bot), and watching her Portrait, I noticed that she never blinked. Then I went back to Mirana, and she dead stared for the rest of the match after I did that.

              Then, I played Lina, and I made sure not to left-click on anyone or anything the whole fight. I noticed that the whole time, she had no expressions but her eyes blinked and mouth idly moved as normal.

              So it seems to me that if you click on ANYTHING (even inanimate objects like the aforementioned Fountain), it breaks the blinking (and any neutral expressions, too). Also, characters controlled by Bots apparently don't blink, and (as Marik noted in his last post with certain characters) this gets transferred to player characters for the rest of the match.

              EDIT: Whoa, Marik posted right before me!
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              • #8
                I have this problem too. Mouths move, but no facial expressions. IO doesn't show up in its portrait at all.

                Devs pls fix!

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                • #9
                  I hope they fix it too, herrshaun!

                  Anyhoo, two more things:

                  (1) Add Drow Ranger to the list of characters whose idle facial expressions break if you left-click on anyone/anything else.

                  (2) Bots have idle facial expressions in the portrait that appears if they kill you. (I noticed that with Earthshaker.) Just something.
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                  • #10
                    Me again, here's a couple new observations:

                    (1) Templar Assassin apparently doesn't dead stare if you select someone/something else. She keeps blinking as normal.

                    (2) While playing as the aforementioned character in the same match, I clicked on Skywrath Mage (enemy Bot), and I noticed that he blinked!
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                    • #11
                      *POKES HEAD IN AGAIN*

                      I can personally confirm Marik's observation that Windranger doesn't lose her neutral facial expressions when someone/something else is left-clicked. Also, other characters in the match don't lose their neutral facial expressions when you click on them while playing her, either.

                      Also, here's a pic comparing Dazzle's (enemy Bot's) "Killed by" portrait with his HUD portrait. Notice that he dead stares in the HUD portrait, since the character I'm using (Lina) has the dead stare bug:
                      2014-10-07_00031.jpg

                      EDIT: Whoa, page 2!

                      EDIT #2: I've decided from here on out, to edit this post with any new findings and such (unless someone posts after it), to avoid further multiple posts. First, a summary:

                      All characters who had non-idle facial expressions (e.g. smiling, frowning, anger, laughing, pain, etc.) before September 25th, 2014 (the day of the original post) don't now.

                      Characters who dead stare if anyone/anything else is left-clicked (any other possible trigger[s] are unknown); other characters dead stare if left-clicked if player's character is affected by the bug:
                      * Crystal Maiden
                      * Drow Ranger
                      * Enchantress
                      * Lina
                      * Luna
                      * Magnus
                      * Mirana
                      * Necrophos (according to herrshaun)
                      * Skywrath Mage
                      * Sniper
                      * Vengeful Spirit
                      * Wraith King (according to Marik)

                      Characters who don't dead stare if anyone/anything else is left-clicked on; other characters keep idle facials when left-clicked on by the player:
                      * Lion (according to Marik)
                      * Templar Assassin
                      * Windranger (NOTE: Marik says he's seen her blank [a.k.a. "dead"] stare before; he's since said that he saw her do it in a Livestream match, which prompted this thread's creation in the first place).
                      * Witch Doctor (according to Marik).

                      Dead stare TBD:
                      * Phantom Assassin
                      * Pudge
                      * Anyone else not mentioned in this topic (as of this third edit).

                      Omnicolour says that Phantom Assassin has glitchy lips while dead and speaking. Other characters' lips may not move quite right while speaking, either.

                      Dead Stare bug affects both HUD and (certain?) Killed by" portraits.

                      Custom Games mode is apparently unaffected!! When I tried out "Adventure Mode" by [SK]-死MAJORA死 as Skywrath Mage, he had kinda glitchy lips but he had the full range of facial expressions, and clicking on other things didn't break them!
                      Last edited by Starry Might; 10-14-2014, 11:26 AM. Reason: Added Necrophos to Dead Stare list, etc.
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                      • #12
                        Can confirm, fix please.

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                        • #13
                          PA's lips also appear to glitchy, and its not only while dead, but while speaking normal lines too.
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                          • #14
                            @ Garry70: Yeah, it's still there.

                            @ Omnicolour: Really? I've seen other characters' lips not moving quite right, also.

                            Anyway, Magnus is affected by the Dead Stare bug, and said bug now apparently affects the "Killed by" portrait as of (I think) the October 8th patch. I've gone ahead and updated my last post accordingly.
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                            • #15
                              Necrophos is affected too. He's supposed periodically grimace and sneer. He's my favorite hero and now he's just like :| all game.

                              Here's hoping at least one or two of the devs are paying attention!

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