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  • #31
    Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
    I would like an actual case where people were unable to recognize Lina, and mistook her for another hero, preferably more than once.
    Exactly.
    As I said, I do not mind if they keep it clientside but then they should offer partial or full refunds.
    I do not mind if the payemnt is reverted as steam wallet credit or real cash either, I just want a fair treatment from the company I gave my money to

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Wootman View Post
      The description also didn't say others could see it, your point?
      Imagine you bought a DVD. One week after you get it, the DVD changes so that everyone else watching the TV can't hear the sound. The seller points out that he never said they would be able to, and says you can't have a refund either.

      Is this remotely fair or legal?
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      • #33
        This is exactly the same as with WarZ when it was removed from Steam Store, they were advertising false features.
        They removed the game from the store and ofered refunds why I expect the same in this case.
        WarZ costed pretty much the same as this VISUAL item why I expect it to be VISUAL for everyone, like the rest of the itmes of the game.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by aftokinito View Post
          This is clearly ilegal.
          The description of the product does not say it is clientsided.

          I do not care about your opinions about the set or its price, I'm just demanding fair and legal actions for those who bought the item.

          On my end, if they make the change permanent I will revert the payment at paypal.
          By the way, when people's accounts get banned for cheating or whatever, they lose all their items. Valve owns the items, they're digital, you merely pay for the ability to use them. You don't own them so you can walk away with them.

          P.S.

          A lot of people don't use the hero icons anyway, just the color ones. At least I do. So, I could give a crap less about your icon woes.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
            Imagine you bought a DVD. One week after you get it, the DVD changes so that everyone else watching the TV can't hear the sound. The seller points out that he never said they would be able to, and says you can't have a refund either.

            Is this remotely fair or legal?
            That isn't even close to a proper analogy.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Milkman View Post
              It is not unlawful.

              He still sees the map icon.
              This is the most stupid argument that anyone can come up with. And unfortunately, the thread is filled with them.

              As I've said, items were offering these assets, and offering them to be seen by every player on the game. Every cosmetic in the game are designed and sold as show-off elements, not as client-sided skins. And like I've said before, I would love to have every single cosmetic item to be like this, and be only client-sided skins, but that is not the case. They were sold to be show-off elements on the game, so customers have the right to demand that back when they are taken away without any sort of compensation refund, or a full-refund option handy.

              EVEN IF they gave those options, customers still would have the right to have what they've paid for and take legal actions against. Saying "Deal with it!" is not an option for a company. They either have to provide solutions or "deal with it" themselves later on...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by deejaybos View Post
                By the way, when people's accounts get banned for cheating or whatever, they lose all their items. Valve owns the items, they're digital, you merely pay for the ability to use them. You don't own them so you can walk away with them.

                P.S.

                A lot of people don't use the hero icons anyway, just the color ones. At least I do. So, I could give a crap less about your icon woes.
                What if you pay for a game and the next day they decide you cannot play it anymore?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
                  Imagine you bought a DVD. One week after you get it, the DVD changes so that everyone else watching the TV can't hear the sound. The seller points out that he never said they would be able to, and says you can't have a refund either.

                  Is this remotely fair or legal?
                  That's the dumbest analogy I have read in a while (I stand corrected) . Try to pick another that's actually closer to the OP's idiotic issue.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by aftokinito View Post
                    What if you pay for a game and the next day they decide you cannot play it anymore?
                    That isn't even close to a proper analogy either.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
                      Imagine you bought a DVD. One week after you get it, the DVD changes so that everyone else watching the TV can't hear the sound. The seller points out that he never said they would be able to, and says you can't have a refund either.

                      Is this remotely fair or legal?
                      May not be fair but he can't do anything about it either way look at the steam terms of service.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by dmoe View Post
                        That's the dumbest analogy I have read in a while. Try to pick another that's actually closer to the OP's idiotic issue.
                        Do me a favour and come up with one then.

                        He bought something expecting it to function like every other cosmetic in the game. It no longer does.

                        Why are you defending that?

                        edit: @ Wootman: Then support him in asking for something fairer. The solution to an unfair EULA is not to go "lol sux but dat's life", it's to try and get it improved.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by havoc2 View Post
                          I think it's the principle of buying something thinking it does something then it gets removed especially with such a high price....
                          This here.

                          Although if Arcana users are getting screwed, let em.

                          They're LoL cancer if they actually decided to buy that bullshit.
                          TIME TO PLAY DOTA2'S FAVORITE GAMESHOW!: "ESPORTS ARE OVER, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR NEW CONTENT TO GET ADDED!!!!!!!!!"
                          PLACE YOUR BETS NOW! Current prediction - 5 weeks

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
                            Do me a favour and come up with one then.

                            He bought something expecting it to function like every other cosmetic in the game. It no longer does.

                            Why are you defending that?

                            edit: @ Wootman: Then support him in asking for something fairer. The solution to an unfair EULA is not to go "lol sux but dat's life", it's to try and get it improved.
                            Only it DOES function like every other cosmetic in the game. None of the cosmetics change minimap icons.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by aftokinito View Post
                              What if you pay for a game and the next day they decide you cannot play it anymore?
                              actually they can and it said so in the steam user agreements

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by DarkLite View Post
                                Do me a favour and come up with one then.

                                He bought something expecting it to function like every other cosmetic in the game. It no longer does.

                                Why are you defending that?

                                edit: @ Wootman: Then support him in asking for something fairer. The solution to an unfair EULA is not to go "lol sux but dat's life", it's to try and get it improved.
                                No other cosmetic in the game changes the minimap icon. So it's not like every single one in the game. I for one don't agree with icons that are used to on the minimap should be touched at all considering you take quick glances at it and random ass changes can confuse people. It may not be bad now but say when there is around 30 arcana items in the game this can get a little unnecessary.

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