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  • "New" MM even worse than before.

    Played 5 games. Out of these 5 only ONE was actually a gg/close/balanced game. The other 4 were onesided/stomps. One of them was absolutely hilarious. 5 single players up against a stack of 5. And not the forget the odd one out, u know, the game where 3 of your teammates seem decent but there is one guy who seems so much worse than the rest and who most of the time has like 700 wins less than everyone else.

    So ya valve, well played on the "improvements".

  • #2
    That's not true, I played some games with the new matchmaking even my friends and is working perfect, much better than before.

    If you expect to win all of your games, just uninstall dota2. Even good players feed MID or another lane and the other midder turns unstoppable, but that's not the matchmaking fault, how I said, even good players play bad some games.

    There will be balanced games, and no-balanced games for this reasson, remember even good players has a bad day.

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    • #3
      Hi victorious, would you mind sharing a Match ID, and explaining what it is that you think was bad about the match?

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      • #4
        Hey mate, thank you for your reply, i appreciate it. "Thats not true" goddamnit, u caught me, i made it all up.

        @ Fletcher: http://dotabuff.com/matches/246571940 - 5 singles against a 5 stack.

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        • #5
          Man, my games were all nice and balanced
          I like to do stupid stuff even when i know it's stupid.

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          • #6
            Match ID: 246617305

            I believe I was matched with a 4-stack. In fairness, I think the match went badly because the captain admitted having drafted heroes his friends didn't know how to play (viz. Rubick). But still, Rubick had no idea how to play her hero; she never used her ultimate in lane. Treant Protector never put any levels in leech seed and entered lane with one level in invis, so he was completely useless for the first two and a half minutes as he cast invis on himself, so he couldn't deny any creeps, and he didn't have a skill point yet for living armor.
            We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



            merci fenix

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fletcher View Post
              Hi victorious, would you mind sharing a Match ID, and explaining what it is that you think was bad about the match?


              Here you go: Just finished this game. Match ID: 246637585, i am Bloodseeker. I'm aware i have a lot more wins than most people that are playing, but... really? Played on Aus servers - solo queue - all pick. Matchmaking found the game in less than 20 seconds of searching. Thought it was great such a quick match found. Proceeded to be a stomp. It feels like I'm in the bottom/mid tier of matchmaking and every game I play is a stomp either our team or their team. Maybe 1/10 games are fair and balanced.

              Even if there was a suggestion like "Based on your skill level and experience, to get a more even match, queue on the SEA and China servers" or something. At the moment it's become almost boring and I never thought I'd say that about Dota 2.

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              • #8
                Seriously, it is the same, even worse, I dont know why I get paired with people that does not even know how to build its hero. Guess I will have to smurf..
                Dota 2 status:
                http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota...respawn_04.mp3

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                • #9
                  Hi! I heard about this thread so decide to write something. I played one match and I dont remember when I played such a bad match last time.
                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/246619402
                  I played zeus and I destroyed EVERYONE with easy. I played with two of my friends, both of them have more than 500 games in dota. We were matched with one guy with 2(!!!) wins - juggernaut and another one got ~70 wins (crystal maiden).
                  The enemy had one guy with ~600 wins, omniknight, but he was terrible, chen have 600 games he was kinda ok... maybe, but wr got 70 and the last two guys i dont remeber how many, but one got like 20 wins? This game was terrible, I felt like I Was playing with a really fresh newcomers.

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                  • #10
                    You can look at this game 246636893. I am not saying it wasn't balanced. It just didn't feel it. Maybe I should have played a different role or something but we had players with very few games matched up with people with ALOT of games. Anyways if valve gives an explanation that would be wonderful if not I understand.

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                    • #11
                      I also had one, not really a stomp but the Sniper in http://dotabuff.com/matches/243231483 was quite obviously very new. He went butterfly first and was very confused about other item choices. He was asking a lot for help in item build.

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                      • #12
                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/246902002

                        MATCH ID 246902002

                        i am confident this matchmaking is screwed up as hell and made a fking mistake tonight.

                        alchemist had 12 wins
                        i have 431 wins (dotabuff shows less wins because when i enable statistics it could only draw my last 500 games played)
                        weaver 224 wins
                        lina 190 wins
                        shadow demon 153 wins


                        so let me summarise that for you. i have a 12wins alchemist. i am the ONLY person with 400~wins. i am teamed up with 3 players that have ~200wins.


                        the enemies? you can see for yourself in dotabuff

                        600wins
                        350wins
                        370wins
                        416wins
                        600wins

                        now look valve. i am the ONLY player that has more wins than 2 out of 5 enemies.
                        all of my enemies are mostly ~400 wins and 2 of them have 600wins

                        and i team up with a 12 wins alchemist. really?

                        now look at the KDAs.

                        look at lina and sd kills and assists.

                        my 8kills were almost all solo kills through the game. this matchmaking teams me with a 12 wins alchemist, 1-11 weaver, and a 0-9 lina?

                        against my enemies who all have 400wins and 600wins? really?


                        i am not complaining that i am playing against decent players. i am fucking frustrated that the matchmaking puts me with teammates that always ensure the enemies get fatter by feeding them much more than i can do in a 1v5 situation.



                        scroll up and compare the wins from the 5members of radiant and the 5 members of dire.


                        unless you tell me my mmr rating is so fucking high that i can carry 4 trash to win against an enemy with much more wins. matchmaking needs to get fixed.

                        and this match just happened an hour ago. meaning the latest new patch was in effect.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by soloqdota View Post
                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/246902002

                          MATCH ID 246902002

                          i am confident this matchmaking is screwed up as hell and made a fking mistake tonight.

                          alchemist had 12 wins
                          i have 431 wins (dotabuff shows less wins because when i enable statistics it could only draw my last 500 games played)
                          weaver 224 wins
                          lina 190 wins
                          shadow demon 153 wins


                          so let me summarise that for you. i have a 12wins alchemist. i am the ONLY person with 400~wins. i am teamed up with 3 players that have ~200wins.


                          the enemies? you can see for yourself in dotabuff

                          600wins
                          350wins
                          370wins
                          416wins
                          600wins

                          now look valve. i am the ONLY player that has more wins than 2 out of 5 enemies.
                          all of my enemies are mostly ~400 wins and 2 of them have 600wins

                          and i team up with a 12 wins alchemist. really?

                          now look at the KDAs.

                          look at lina and sd kills and assists.

                          my 8kills were almost all solo kills through the game. this matchmaking teams me with a 12 wins alchemist, 1-11 weaver, and a 0-9 lina?

                          against my enemies who all have 400wins and 600wins? really?


                          i am not complaining that i am playing against decent players. i am fucking frustrated that the matchmaking puts me with teammates that always ensure the enemies get fatter by feeding them much more than i can do in a 1v5 situation.



                          scroll up and compare the wins from the 5members of radiant and the 5 members of dire.


                          unless you tell me my mmr rating is so fucking high that i can carry 4 trash to win against an enemy with much more wins. matchmaking needs to get fixed.

                          and this match just happened an hour ago. meaning the latest new patch was in effect.
                          DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND
                          NUMBER OF WINS IS NOT EQUAL TO SKILL LEVEL OF PLAYER

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Racerkid View Post
                            DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND
                            NUMBER OF WINS IS NOT EQUAL TO SKILL LEVEL OF PLAYER
                            In most games I played, a 20 win weaver who was with me, definitely didn't know bounty's ult gave the opponents true sight, an 80 odd wins QoP, didn't know what the blademail does and kept nuking herself to death.

                            So yes wins do account for experience at least. Then again, too many smurfs make it hard for matchmaking to figure that out.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Racerkid View Post
                              DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND
                              NUMBER OF WINS IS NOT EQUAL TO SKILL LEVEL OF PLAYER
                              Then tell me why was the game so one sided. The skill level is very very different

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