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You thought MM couldnt get any worse?.... HA! TAKE THIS NEW PATCH BISHES!

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  • #16
    I've only played 8 games and As it was before the update I normally get people who are on their 0-40th game and ragequit when they die. And then occasionally I will be up against smurfs/mentors who counterpick and such. Haven't noticed a difference tbh. Then again, only 8 games... so...

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    • #17
      If the previous MM is broken i assume that the current rankings of all players will also be affected. Therefore many players will have rankings that may not fit thiere actual level of skill.

      The new MM system will not work perfectly until the rankings have stabilized, you can't expect to immediately see results when the system was just recently implematened

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Shmendrich View Post
        Originally posted by Craig View Post
        Exactly.

        If a player in the top 1% is partied with a player in the bottom 1%, then who else should be in their match?
        Thats precisely my point, they shouldnt

        thats why we need BRACKETS, search range should allow the game to move 1 bracket up or down if the time goes for too long (2 at most) and depending on the ranges of the system the brackets should be of around 300-600 difference at most between each

        Now before you ask, What if they are partied? We have 2 very simple options here
        - Make Solo match DEFAULT, and add the tick option to "Play With parties even if solo" that way the solo queque will grow considerably and will fix the balance issues of SOLO MM, since they seem to be due to the small player pool and it will give the option for players to decide if they want to risk the reduced balance with parties
        - Before ACCEPTING the match, warn the ALLIES of the newb that they have a player of very different skill level on their team, do they accept? if they do they get an item drop at the end of the match for sure Kind of like the mentoring program , this could also be a tick box they tic just once, and when they accept the match they just receive the message of "Xplayer is of a lower skill level, help him to get a reward" and at the end of the match ask the newb/s to rate the rest of their allies (If they were helpful or mean) and if the vote is good, the item drop of that player has a higher chance of being a rare or better item

        In this case maybe trying to balance things as well, trying to put mentored players on both teams would help


        Maybe it sounds a bit mean, I also have friends I teach to play and I'd have to deal with that....but the problem of the current system is that it FORCES YOU to mentor people, if the best Player is partying with the worst Player of DotA... thats his choice, he decides to accept the difficulties and frustration he might bring to the table, however what about the other 3 players of his team? Is it fair for them to have to drag this anchor on their necks?
        Try to actually read the question before answering. It's only one line long.
        Last edited by Craig; 07-23-2013, 10:45 AM.
        To avoid LPQ:

        Don't draw attention to yourself
        Don't use voice or chat except for 'ss'
        Mute all at lvl 1
        Only play in parties
        Get alternate accounts
        Limit your usage to one or two games per day per account
        Don't play too well
        Don't play on Sunday or Monday
        Wait until the developers reset LPQ status

        If you're getting matched with trolls or feeders:

        You may have been placed in a hidden pool. There is no known way out of this, apart from moving to a different account.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Craig View Post
          Try to actually read the question before answering. It's only one line long.
          Its exactly what im answering, if one of the WORST players is in a party with one of the BEST players, who do you match with them?
          1st point is because we currently have NO brackets, and thats an important topic you arent addressing
          2nd point covers the rest, or are you saying that I did not reply your question?

          Try to actually read the reply before bitching about it.
          Last edited by Shmendrich; 07-23-2013, 07:52 PM.
          Make a NON automated report system.
          I would rather wait 10 minutes for a balanced, fun and exciting match that will last 1+ hours. Than wait 10 seconds for a poorly balanced crapmatch that will end in 30- minutes
          Valve, How I'm I supposed to respect certain boundaries to prevent a mute if I dont know them because they are different for each and every person on each and every game I play?
          The only type of player that dislikes having his stats public are the players that suck and cheaters

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          • #20
            Everything they have been doing is too little. Just give up playing by yourself and play with friends. :/
            Or better still, play a different game.
            I will mercilessly add to my ignore list anyone that makes an incredibly annoying signature.

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            • #21
              Lost my last 11 out of 14 games. Absolutely devastated every time.

              Started looking at people's Dota profiles before matches.

              More often than not, my whole team is 50-100 wins. Other team has multiple people with 300-500. Sometimes up to 1000.

              Myself, I have about 145 wins. My friends I play with have ~50. We're not great players.

              This game is no longer fun.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by hoveringmover View Post
                Everything they have been doing is too little. Just give up playing by yourself and play with friends. :/
                Or better still, play a different game.
                Good thinking!!!! What a helpful way to contribute!!! The problem doesnt affect me cause i play with a 5 man stack party ergo join my way of playing or quit the game for good...So helpful

                Back to the OP point i agree.MM state is deplorable.Either patch it back to the way it was before or redo the whole thing from scratch.And i kind of want the later.Dota for me since the patch is not fun anymore.

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                • #23
                  check this thread
                  so many ridiculous onesided MM result http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=70322
                  GJ Volfuck

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                  • #24
                    MM system is shit.

                    DotA is a pretty flawless game, but that's all for not if your playing with more then 2 players in your game.

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                    • #25
                      MM before the open beta was matchin #wins and other stuff

                      now it does not care about it and goes like this (my guess)


                      Radiant
                      -Bad
                      -Bad
                      -Regular
                      -Good
                      -Good

                      Dire
                      -Bad
                      -Bad
                      -Regular
                      -Good
                      -Good
                      Originally posted by MukenTuken
                      got muted on main
                      made new account
                      played with 9 other smurfs who wanted to stomp some noobs, just like i wanted

                      So now you cant even stomp some poor newcommers when you are bored

                      ded game

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