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A Thread about matchmaking and valve's decision to hide wins

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  • A Thread about matchmaking and valve's decision to hide wins

    So today i had a game, in that game some guy randomed TA and went mid. In the first 10 minutes she died 9 times , gave no missing calls which resulted in our solo hard DS failing. If you watched her playing you would see that she was a new player in 1 glance. She was auto-attacking, didn't even know what ss meant, she didn't know her opponents skills , she asked us how they could see her while she was invis. It was her 10 th game at max.Obviously after 15 minutes everybody on my team except me and her told the other team to report her. I tried defending her by saying that she was just a new player and it was not her fault but the valve's fault for putting her in a match with people with 800 games. But you know what happened? They all reported her because they were all bored of MM. Nobody wants to win by stomping, nobody wants to be stomped, everybody wants balanced games.

    After the game I added her to my friend list and asked her if she got LPQ . Guess what happened? LPQ and Mute. She said she would never play this game again.Well if that happened to me in one of my first games, I would've leaved dota as well.
    I want to say thank you valve for giving this player worst hour of her life. I want to thank you for hiding her wins so we couldn't tell her to pick a support and stay back.Valve community isn't toxic as you make them to be. You are the one who makes comunnity toxic. Right now in DotA 2 wins are tasteless and loses are torture. Thank you valve for letting me play max 1 balanced game per month.

    Also From what i learned from the threads here MMR works like this. You win a game you get 1 positive MMR you lose a game you get 1 positive MMR. So this means that some guy who played 20 games and ended up 10-10 can be matched with a guy who played 2000 games and ended up 1000-1000. They both have the same MMR dont they?

    Valve you are indeed good at making games. But you cant keep them up for long. TF2 is an example. And DotA 2 is the Next TF2. believe me only thing that keeps dota 2 alive is the gameplay and mechanics. You did nothing to improve dota 2 . The last patch with only hats was one of the last straws. 600 mb patch for only hats. Normal hero patches are 400 mb. This shows how much valve cares about improving the game. Hiding Wins is doing nothing to protect new players . It is hurting new players.

    Also LoL is right now more competitive than DotA 2. Do you know what was DotA's difference from LoL? What made it better? It had a harder learning curve, it was competitive, you would play to get better and when you got better you would be satisfied. Right now I don't enjoy dota 2 at all. %70 of community don't enjoy dota 2 at all. But does valve care? Nope. who the fuck cares about the community having fun . We dont care if they're having fun if they're buying our hats and making us money. But people cant stop buying hats . Do you know why valve? It is because if people stop buying hats you will turn this game into fucking p2w just like LoL. I am leaving this game right now and will only come back when valve decides to listen to the community.

    Sincerely, a former dota 2 player.

  • #2
    Normally I would say add this to another thread and don't make another but this is such true meaningful story of the way the new matchmaking system is working I cant help but +1 the thread. Its a pity that this new system is dividing the community even further and hiding wins doesn't help.

    Atleast when they start up for the first time, it should ask if they want their rating to be hidden or not and say what the consequences might be.

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    • #3
      ok. bye.
      Originally posted by landrid View Post
      the consequences might be.
      There's consequences? ...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by landrid View Post
        Normally I would say add this to another thread and don't make another but this is such true meaningful story of the way the new matchmaking system is working I cant help but +1 the thread. Its a pity that this new system is dividing the community even further and hiding wins doesn't help.

        Atleast when they start up for the first time, it should ask if they want their rating to be hidden or not and say what the consequences might be.
        There aren't any consequences. You can unhide your wins in the options menu.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wochie View Post
          There aren't any consequences. You can unhide your wins in the options menu.
          New players don't know they can do that.

          New players wont know how I don't trust people who hide there wins. New players don't know that the match making is messed up at the moment.

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          • #6
            match id

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            • #7
              Originally posted by landrid View Post
              New players wont know how I don't trust people who hide there wins.
              That's your problem.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wochie View Post
                That's your problem.
                Well aren't you just the beacon of light shining through this sea of diseased ridden noobs, fighting the everymans fight, ensuring equal footing.

                Oh wait...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by landrid View Post
                  Well aren't you just the beacon of light shining through this sea of diseased ridden noobs, fighting the everymans fight, ensuring equal footing.

                  Oh wait...
                  lol dude you literally just said you have trust issues, and you expect other people to have to cope with that?

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                  • #10
                    Excellent post OP. Bravo.
                    We are Legion.

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                    • #11
                      Don't get me wrong that's a nice story, but please provide Match ID so that valve can actually look into why it was balanced the way it was and do something about it.

                      I'm sick of all these rants with 0 useful information. Just grandiose statements that matchmaking sucks and Valve needs to fix it.

                      If it was as simple as hitting a "fix it" button they would have done it by now.

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                      • #12
                        It would be nice if we had some dev feedback about this issue. Are they going to keep ignoring this problem?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by django28 View Post
                          It would be nice if we had some dev feedback about this issue. Are they going to keep ignoring this problem?
                          I know you posted before you saw my post, but devs really can't provide feedback without match id.

                          This forums is so flooded with sob stories that if the original post doesn't have match ID it will probably be ignored by devs.

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                          • #14
                            So another b.s. thread I see. Great. How about you post a match id? Oh that's right, you won't. Just like the guy in the other thread that wouldn't do it. And you misunderstood how mmr works. It's not always a straight +/- on point spread. Sometimes you'll have +15/-9, sometimes it could be +5/-10, etc...

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                            • #15
                              why u guys want match ids ? Wanna see stats? hahahahaha
                              Originally posted by MukenTuken
                              got muted on main
                              made new account
                              played with 9 other smurfs who wanted to stomp some noobs, just like i wanted

                              So now you cant even stomp some poor newcommers when you are bored

                              ded game

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