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awesome, 40 w, 35w, 1st GAME .. against 680 win drow ..... Great job Valve

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  • awesome, 40 w, 35w, 1st GAME .. against 680 win drow ..... Great job Valve

    fuck your MM

  • #2
    cool story. you should make a blog.

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    • #3
      who are u in this ? post match id when u post something like this

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      • #4
        I must admit I post a lot of useless posts, but mods should start deleting these useless threads (you know, even pros get stomped and GG in 10 minutes and do you see them creating stupid threads? No.) and btw 680 wins and still playing drow...he´s probably a noob and deserve to be there. Havent seen drow for months...

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        • #5
          Match ID: 257 169 615 ... what a shit

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          • #6
            huh ? ur defination of a noob is so stupid. its a skill to play sniper and drow properly both of them die like shit. one charge ur dead 2 razes and 2 hits your dead. one hook and your dead. impale hex and finger your dead. ive been playing dota from years and still i play drow frm time to time.
            Originally posted by puTTy View Post
            I must admit I post a lot of useless posts, but mods should start deleting these useless threads (you know, even pros get stomped and GG in 10 minutes and do you see them creating stupid threads? No.) and btw 680 wins and still playing drow...he´s probably a noob and deserve to be there. Havent seen drow for months...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by coolcows View Post
              huh ? ur defination of a noob is so stupid. its a skill to play sniper and drow properly both of them die like shit. one charge ur dead 2 razes and 2 hits your dead. one hook and your dead. impale hex and finger your dead. ive been playing dota from years and still i play drow frm time to time.

              mmmkay
              Spoiler: 

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chrisstone View Post
                Match ID: 257 169 615 ... what a shit
                That Drow is only good enough to have qualified for Normal level matchmaking after 680 wins. Sad. Truth is, the guy isn't very good.

                http://dotabuff.com/players/95184686

                2.-something KDA with all of his most played heroes. Extremely mediocre player.

                Your team's problem probably wasn't the Drow; it was the Nyx who probably went mid and proceeded to shit all over your team. When a Nyx goes 12/0/14 you know there was a breakdown in the fundamentals.

                Yep, just watched the replay.

                1.) Lycan going top (solo suicide) against a Venge + Drow with no wards was a mistake of epic proportions. Lycan can't farm that lane, and if Drow maxes frost arrows first, Lycan will die repeatedly if he gets anywhere near a creep wave. He should have abandoned top entirely and gone to the jungle and you (Enigma) should have rotated top. You were the only one that could realistically farm and defend that lane (with eidolons).

                2.) Your friend playing Mirana lost mid to Nyx in FARM. That shouldn't happen by nature of the matchup (range vs melee). She never bothered to harass him and he actually got more CS than she did. Your friend also never attempted to assert control of the runes, despite having leap that allows him to get to runes faster than nyx. Why? Because...

                3.) Your team (I'm looking at you and your other friend playing Lich now) seemingly refused to buy wards. Despite knowing there are good gankers on the other team, you leave top and bottom completely visionless for the entire game. The first wards purchased and placed by anyone on your entire team came at 25 minutes with sent wards as they were pushing the tier 3. It's too fucking late then.

                4.) You decided that instead of blaming your team comp and lack of any detection items, it must have been MMR that was so bad and you proceded to bitch in all-chat about it. If you guys thought Lycan going suicide lane with no wards or support was a good idea....I don't know what to even say. No, the problem wasn't that Drow is an OP hero. The problem wasn't him being sooo goooood with his 600 wins. The problem was you gave Drow a free lane with free food in the form of your hardest carry, who had no support in an impossible to win lane. Yes, someone at "Normal" level should destroy that lane just like he did, 50 wins or 500 wins.


                If you're new, here's a word of advice: if you see an enemy team pick (a) a ganker or (b) an invis hero and send them mid, someone needs to buy fucking wards and have them up without fail. Mid needs to call miss each and every time that mid is missing from the map for more than 5 seconds. Because when they come, they will get kills if you don't have a way to anticipate their arrival. Expect to lose a lot of games if you and your friends are going to play support heroes and not buy wards.

                Also, you last-picked Engima when you already had a jungler (Lycan). If you all were communicating and he told you he was going to lane, you should have picked a support for him, not a jungler which forces him to lane without any support against double-range. If he didn't communicate, you should have assumed he was going to jungle and picked a solo offlaner who could realistically get a few CS against a double-range lane, like Wind or Dark Seer. Or just picked someone like Bounty and hid in the trees to get your xp up so you could get a fast 6 and start ganking.

                Your last pick hurt your team's chances as much as anything, and you and Lich's lack of warding put the nail in the coffin. It has nothing to do with Drow or Nyx, and everything to do with how you played the match. You let a snowball hero snowball and this is the result, regardless of games played.

                Edit: you could have made those lanes work if you had shuffled them immediately:

                Lich + Mirana top (double range vs double range, lich can deny creeps to keep the wave near your tower and harass with the nuke pushing drow back)

                Lycan mid (he'll farm easily against nyx)

                CK solo safe with Enigma coming to harass regularly.

                Not optimal, but Lycan would have gotten his farm, Drow would have struggled to get hers, and CK would have had a fighting chance bot. You'd still need to get wards, though. Lycan can start taking towers as soon as he hits 6 (which would have been fast with solo mid farm) and the map suddenly begins to shrink for Dire with Lycan + Enig tower pushing at 8 minutes.
                Last edited by Dreams-Visions; 07-29-2013, 02:34 PM.

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                • #9
                  Dreams is a good sir. Great post.

                  I think the matchmaking system is being used as a scapegoat for poor performance in nearly all of these threads.

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                  • #10
                    Another mad OP humiliated. Keep up the good work sir.

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                    • #11
                      really well summarized post. people go in terrible lanes pick stupid heroes and sometimes just have bad luck in games and when the opposite heroes starts snowballing because of this they blame the match making. mm can surely be better but its not that terrible as some people point it out to b
                      Originally posted by Dreams-Visions View Post
                      That Drow is only good enough to have qualified for Normal level matchmaking after 680 wins. Sad. Truth is, the guy isn't very good.

                      http://dotabuff.com/players/95184686

                      2.-something KDA with all of his most played heroes. Extremely mediocre player.

                      Your team's problem probably wasn't the Drow; it was the Nyx who probably went mid and proceeded to shit all over your team. When a Nyx goes 12/0/14 you know there was a breakdown in the fundamentals.

                      Yep, just watched the replay.

                      1.) Lycan going top (solo suicide) against a Venge + Drow with no wards was a mistake of epic proportions. Lycan can't farm that lane, and if Drow maxes frost arrows first, Lycan will die repeatedly if he gets anywhere near a creep wave. He should have abandoned top entirely and gone to the jungle and you (Enigma) should have rotated top. You were the only one that could realistically farm and defend that lane (with eidolons).

                      2.) Your friend playing Mirana lost mid to Nyx in FARM. That shouldn't happen by nature of the matchup (range vs melee). She never bothered to harass him and he actually got more CS than she did. Your friend also never attempted to assert control of the runes, despite having leap that allows him to get to runes faster than nyx. Why? Because...

                      3.) Your team (I'm looking at you and your other friend playing Lich now) seemingly refused to buy wards. Despite knowing there are good gankers on the other team, you leave top and bottom completely visionless for the entire game. The first wards purchased and placed by anyone on your entire team came at 25 minutes with sent wards as they were pushing the tier 3. It's too fucking late then.

                      4.) You decided that instead of blaming your team comp and lack of any detection items, it must have been MMR that was so bad and you proceded to bitch in all-chat about it. If you guys thought Lycan going suicide lane with no wards or support was a good idea....I don't know what to even say. No, the problem wasn't that Drow is an OP hero. The problem wasn't him being sooo goooood with his 600 wins. The problem was you gave Drow a free lane with free food in the form of your hardest carry, who had no support in an impossible to win lane. Yes, someone at "Normal" level should destroy that lane just like he did, 50 wins or 500 wins.


                      If you're new, here's a word of advice: if you see an enemy team pick (a) a ganker or (b) an invis hero and send them mid, someone needs to buy fucking wards and have them up without fail. Mid needs to call miss each and every time that mid is missing from the map for more than 5 seconds. Because when they come, they will get kills if you don't have a way to anticipate their arrival. Expect to lose a lot of games if you and your friends are going to play support heroes and not buy wards.

                      Also, you last-picked Engima when you already had a jungler (Lycan). If you all were communicating and he told you he was going to lane, you should have picked a support for him, not a jungler which forces him to lane without any support against double-range. If he didn't communicate, you should have assumed he was going to jungle and picked a solo offlaner who could realistically get a few CS against a double-range lane, like Wind or Dark Seer. Or just picked someone like Bounty and hid in the trees to get your xp up so you could get a fast 6 and start ganking.

                      Your last pick hurt your team's chances as much as anything, and you and Lich's lack of warding put the nail in the coffin. It has nothing to do with Drow or Nyx, and everything to do with how you played the match. You let a snowball hero snowball and this is the result, regardless of games played.

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                      • #12
                        Didnt read the long post but..... the guy has a total 80 games approx ?.. and he is matched with someone who has at least 1000 games ?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MFDOOMSDAY View Post
                          Didnt read the long post but..... the guy has a total 80 games approx ?.. and he is matched with someone who has at least 1000 games ?
                          the OP was in a party with 2 of his friends. One of them may have been very new to Dota in general, not sure. They got matched against a really bad Drow player with a lot of wins (all of his matches are "Normal", rather than "High" or "Very High") and gave him the easiest lane of his life. They then proceed to bitch in all chat about how MM is imba and look at this Drow's farm.

                          Well no shit. Drow + Venge safe lane against solo Lycanthorpe. The only way Drow and Venge lose that lane is if they are so new they don't even know what stuns and frost arrows are. And imbecile wins that lane and gets big.

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                          • #14
                            OP, what you need to do is follow my sig

                            HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE MATCHMAKING? MUTE SYSTEM? THINKING EVERYBODY IS INFERIOR TO YOU?
                            WE HAVE THREE EASY STEPS TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PROBLEM!


                            THANK YOU FOR MAKING DOTA2 A BETTER PLACE! AND REMEMBER, THERES NO GOING BACK

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by katsaroulhs View Post
                              mmmkay
                              Three stages of views when you see a pub hero


                              Stage 1; ahh noob picked Drow GG op hero
                              Stage 2: Ahh guy picked drow meh
                              Stage 3: Guy picked drow what a noob go pick tiny and rofl stomp him guys we got this
                              Originally posted by Typhox
                              Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database
                              Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert.

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