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  • #46
    Originally posted by Knavt View Post
    Dota2 have retards in all countries. I have a lot of games with EU and TURKEY retards, who ruin my games, feed like 0/15, call mid before pick and ruin it. Stop cry about russians. u are not better. this is TRUE
    Its not that your ruining games, but the attitude and failure to comunicate in English is a major turn off. I don't want someone to be yelling on voice chat in another language screaming obscenities at my mother

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    • #47
      Originally posted by nimishz View Post
      what if they dont use text chat but speak in russian ? it then again comes to the majority issue i came up with majority of russians playing on english servers and reporting english speaking public for speaking english. do u think if u report them they wont report u ? ok so lets leave aside russian for a moment and think of issue pertaining my region sea. in india alone there are around 20 language with protected status sri lanka has its own languge so does vietnam phillipenese thailand and countless other islands and several other countries ? this represent more than 25% of the world population with atleast 25 different languages and countless dialects. u will create a language filter for each language ? a language bar for each option ? what makes u think if valve grants wishes of 1 part of communnity others wont come with similar demands ?
      voice detection can be as easily automated as text detection... this automated detection would be independent from reports, it would be always on..

      and as for your argument regarding minor languages, that is up to non-european servers to decide on.. as it is, virtually noone (besides an ocassional exception) speaks spanish/german/french/other languages on EU west. everyone respects the english option besides russian-speaking players.. i propose that new language preferences can of course be added, it would be up to people to choose which language preference they wish to queue for. however, they would have to respect the language preference of the server they would end up on (meaning that it doesn't matter whether a person can select a maximum of one or two language options)

      virtual dictionaries of all languages already exist, it is therefore not that difficult to automate the process of word-checking..

      I do not propose to make a language preference of every language (like you are asking in your last sentences), but only for the major languages of the world:
      - English, Spanish, French, German, Russian, Chinese, Indian, Portuguese, Arabic

      This way we could share servers, while everyone would be required to speak the same language as the language preference selected. This would of course be applicable only to official MM servers, and not private lobbies.

      And as for friends playing together on official MM, if they are 5 together, any language would be allowed within Party chat (but only if they are 5 together), but not on All chat.
      Last edited by Randomization; 08-16-2013, 01:33 PM.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Knavt View Post
        retards like u - cancer of dota. who crying OMG THIS IS RUS, VOLVOOOOOOO
        1st pro tournaments began in CIS countries, russia and ukrain, 1st pro teas was created in russia and ukrain.
        look on your pussy dota, then cry.. thx
        This is because dota 2 introduced in mainly russia and dota 2 invitation keys spread all over the mother russia... This is not a proof that russians are good players... Russians are bad players dude, it is proven by all matchmaking troubles, there is no doubt

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        • #49
          i dont think adding virtual dictionaries and matching voices will server anything if at all it will only put more pressure on servers plus there are slangs what if i use slangs which arent included in dictionaries ? m not that fluent with english slangs but if i speak in hindi i can for hell make sure a full sentence with slangs with words u wont find in any hindi dictionary. every language has its slangs dont they ? and if suppose a few guys from romania play on your servers and dont know english dont know russian dont knnow chinsese and speak their language they will get banned in every server of the world. what if friends playing together dont speak a single language and cant communicate decently with each other some can speak english some cant were will they play ? what about people who dont fall in any of the language preference ?
          ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give DIRETIDE

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          • #50
            Originally posted by nimishz View Post
            i dont think adding virtual dictionaries and matching voices will server anything if at all it will only put more pressure on servers plus there are slangs what if i use slangs which arent included in dictionaries ? m not that fluent with english slangs but if i speak in hindi i can for hell make sure a full sentence with slangs with words u wont find in any hindi dictionary. every language has its slangs dont they ? and if suppose a few guys from romania play on your servers and dont know english dont know russian dont knnow chinsese and speak their language they will get banned in every server of the world. what if friends playing together dont speak a single language and cant communicate decently with each other some can speak english some cant were will they play ? what about people who dont fall in any of the language preference ?
            you're saying that like if slangs can't be added to dictionary once they are discovered.. if the community knows the slang, then the dictionary will learn the slang.. and as for your romanians, the answer is yes plus romanians are an educated nation who almost always learn at least french or spanish You ask about ''people who dont fall in any of the language preference'', yet noone ever meets them in-game and we only meet russian-speakers.. How is that possible?

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            • #51
              3 people in party will always speak their mother tongue no matter what. they will talk with you in english but amongst themselves they will speak in romanina or whatever their language is. i meet theese none category people almost every game. they speak their language amongst themselves and scramble a few words in english like gank up gank down so no problem with communication. if u dont find people other than russians it again validates my point they are in majority no1 likes to trouble majority for minority(they will get reported and banned for playing in your servers hence trouble).
              so in short for a few europeans you want1) a language preference optionf or atleast 10 most spoken language in the world 2) lots of increases server capacity for checking text and speech 3) continuously searching for slangs so as to add them to your virtual dictionary 4) lots of misc problem which i have stated regarding people who cant speak these preference languages 5) dont wanna allow people to speak their own languge amongst themselves in english servers when they are fluent in english as well 5) want valve to spend n number of hours coding this shit so that it gets implemented while leaving other work unattended(porting heroes bugs clitches earning for themselves through cosmetic ) there is too much problem and too little gain. i cant say anything more have a nice day it was nice discussing with u
              Originally posted by Randomization View Post
              you're saying that like if slangs can't be added to dictionary once they are discovered.. if the community knows the slang, then the dictionary will learn the slang.. and as for your romanians, the answer is yes plus romanians are an educated nation who almost always learn at least french or spanish You ask about ''people who dont fall in any of the language preference'', yet noone ever meets them in-game and we only meet russian-speakers.. How is that possible?
              ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give DIRETIDE

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              • #52
                Originally posted by nimishz View Post
                3 people in party will always speak their mother tongue no matter what. they will talk with you in english but amongst themselves they will speak in romanina or whatever their language is. i meet theese none category people almost every game. they speak their language amongst themselves and scramble a few words in english like gank up gank down so no problem with communication. if u dont find people other than russians it again validates my point they are in majority no1 likes to trouble majority for minority(they will get reported and banned for playing in your servers hence trouble).
                so in short for a few europeans you want1) a language preference optionf or atleast 10 most spoken language in the world 2) lots of increases server capacity for checking text and speech 3) continuously searching for slangs so as to add them to your virtual dictionary 4) lots of misc problem which i have stated regarding people who cant speak these preference languages 5) dont wanna allow people to speak their own languge amongst themselves in english servers when they are fluent in english as well 5) want valve to spend n number of hours coding this shit so that it gets implemented while leaving other work unattended(porting heroes bugs clitches earning for themselves through cosmetic ) there is too much problem and too little gain. i cant say anything more have a nice day it was nice discussing with u
                To answer your concerns:
                1.) I gave just examples of most common languages.. To make it simpler for the matchmaking what could be done is that languages wouldn't be worldwide, but only for specific regions, for example the Indian language I listed wouldn't be available in Europe, as it would be pointless to have it anyways.
                2.) Increased server capacity.. I wasn't aware we have problems with server capacity at the moment -_-. I don't see this as being a problem.
                3.) ''Continuosly searching for slangs''.. Yes, because slangs appear everyday in hundreds. That is a tough job indeed. -_-
                4.) Well there is always an option of adding a language preference ''Unspecified'' in which the filter wouldn't be applied, and they can have fun there all day long for all I care. And once again you are talking of people that rarely play dota = people who do not speak any of the major world languages.
                5.) They can speak the language that they chose for the language preference but they refuse to out of spite? Well, fuck 'em.
                and that second 5 of yours since you don't bother formatting or numbering properly yet you expect answers) yes, I want them to ''code this shit'' because it shouldn't be hard to do and it would improve the game thousandfold.

                And I can see that you have no more to say.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Knavt View Post
                  retards like u - cancer of dota. who crying OMG THIS IS RUS, VOLVOOOOOOO
                  1st pro tournaments began in CIS countries, russia and ukrain, 1st pro teas was created in russia and ukrain.
                  look on your pussy dota, then cry.. thx
                  Says Russians are awesome. Has sig complaining about Russians in EU West.
                  We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



                  merci fenix

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by erik-the-red View Post
                    Says Russians are awesome. Has sig complaining about Russians in EU West.
                    70% of fucking russian players - retards, and i agree with it. But i realy tired from 60% eu players, That whine before picks: "OMG THIS IS FUCKING RUS, I AFK". U think this is better?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by LQTLKT
                      Why u join eu west then??
                      The problem is not russian queing euwest. the problem is russians queing both euwest and russian server.
                      Differences are clear:
                      U can pick riki on russian server very high tier and win +-70% of your games.
                      U pick riki on euwest normal tier and lose +-70% of your games.
                      Then guys like you come have 60% winerate on russian server, become very high ranked and have 40% winrate in eu games fuck up our games, because russian very high is muc much lower then european very high (wich is bad aswell, but not as bad as russian)
                      I have 30 ping on EUwest, and 20% packet loss on eueast and russian servers.
                      and sry, http://dotabuff.com/players/64563217...atch_type=real
                      i have 68% winrate on my riki martin, and i play only euwest

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                      • #56
                        If they talk in a different language that is unknown for u just copy/paste what they told ^_^ That would work Or make them start talking in English :P

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