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  • Rant / Suggestion to MMR

    Game ID : 440947620

    Rant Part :
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    "You can ignore this part if you want"

    Every game I'm always paired with losing team and this game idiot silencer was the one for this game. He chose mid and never helped ganking top or bot lanes, he kept feeding to enemies on purpose and doesn't know when to initiates gank. Because people like him I can't possibly raise my solo ques ranking at all and keep going down and down in ranking with no hope of going up. Because of him I lost so much golds just to buy wards when he should have bought as well (but because of his stupidity he forced WR to buy wards in his place).

    Whats worse is, he's muted and never spoken a single word and also he has been using my courier to feed the enemy as retaliation for flaming him.


    Suggestion Part :
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    Just as Valve prevented players who are in Low Pool from playing ranking game, why can't they add muted players to the list as well ? It's bad enough that muted players lowers the team performance but having them in MMR is even worse !!
    Last edited by Ajaxs99; 12-26-2013, 11:18 AM.

  • #2
    Hell no, what a terrible idea.

    I'm an 8 year vet and have little tolerance for shit players. I mostly blame Valve's poor MM system, because a lot of the kids I play with on both sides should not be playing with / against me. If you suck, i'll tell you what you should have done. If you make a blatant, common-sense, what did you think would happen move I will call you out and call you an idiot. If you are resistant to group collaborative play and understanding the need to shift meta mid-game to compensate for shortcomings, I will flame you. I feel the mute button for players is enough to quell "my feelings are hurt, wah." players. I've muted plenty of people that just would not stop talking or yelling, or generally making the game unenjoyable. That's what it's there for, there's no need for a global persistent mute for an excessive amount of time as people interact differently with other people. I have consistently been "punished" (global muted) for 168 hours and will continue to do so. This "behavioral tempering" will not change me, nor is it Valve's place to make such a judgement. They have provided the tools for muting and blocking, that's all that's necessary.

    tldr; No. No, and no. Dumb idea.

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    • #3
      think that would give the "punishment" everyone laughes about be a real punishment, kinda like the idea. Would definitely help people think about the words they choose.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lollaskates View Post
        Hell no, what a terrible idea.

        I'm an 8 year vet and have little tolerance for shit players. I mostly blame Valve's poor MM system, because a lot of the kids I play with on both sides should not be playing with / against me. If you suck, i'll tell you what you should have done. If you make a blatant, common-sense, what did you think would happen move I will call you out and call you an idiot. If you are resistant to group collaborative play and understanding the need to shift meta mid-game to compensate for shortcomings, I will flame you. I feel the mute button for players is enough to quell "my feelings are hurt, wah." players. I've muted plenty of people that just would not stop talking or yelling, or generally making the game unenjoyable. That's what it's there for, there's no need for a global persistent mute for an excessive amount of time as people interact differently with other people. I have consistently been "punished" (global muted) for 168 hours and will continue to do so. This "behavioral tempering" will not change me, nor is it Valve's place to make such a judgement. They have provided the tools for muting and blocking, that's all that's necessary.

        tldr; No. No, and no. Dumb idea.

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        • #5
          I don't ever get muted, so I can only assume you have to excessively rude and/or vulgar to be punished this way. Regardless, it is silly to play in Ranked if you can't communicate.

          +1
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          • #6
            Dude straight up, Is Valve trying to change the world or ruin game? Either way, the mute system is fruitless.



            Valve should really take this quote home

            "That government is best which governs least"
            Last edited by brandon75689; 12-26-2013, 06:29 PM.

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            • #7
              I stopped reading at ''Every game I'm always paired with losing team''.
              0/10
              Originally posted by 8-ball
              You mean ppl who went to china and won countless tourneys? who won 3 out of 4 internationals? I guess everyone can see your point, indeed.

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              • #8
                One or two reports will not get you muted. A pattern of consistently abusive behavior will. If you are muted, whether you deserve it or not (most likely you do), you do not have the capability to communicate as effectively as a non-muted person, thus giving your team a handicap. This hinders competitive play and encourages trolling. Muted players have no place in Ranked matches, no matter why you got muted. Not to punish the muted person, but to maintain the integrity of the ranking system.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lollaskates View Post
                  Hell no, what a terrible idea.

                  I'm an 8 year vet and have little tolerance for shit players. I mostly blame Valve's poor MM system, because a lot of the kids I play with on both sides should not be playing with / against me. If you suck, i'll tell you what you should have done. If you make a blatant, common-sense, what did you think would happen move I will call you out and call you an idiot. If you are resistant to group collaborative play and understanding the need to shift meta mid-game to compensate for shortcomings, I will flame you. I feel the mute button for players is enough to quell "my feelings are hurt, wah." players. I've muted plenty of people that just would not stop talking or yelling, or generally making the game unenjoyable. That's what it's there for, there's no need for a global persistent mute for an excessive amount of time as people interact differently with other people. I have consistently been "punished" (global muted) for 168 hours and will continue to do so. This "behavioral tempering" will not change me, nor is it Valve's place to make such a judgement. They have provided the tools for muting and blocking, that's all that's necessary.

                  tldr; No. No, and no. Dumb idea.
                  This ^
                  https://soundcloud.com/blinkingriki182

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lollaskates View Post
                    Hell no, what a terrible idea.

                    I'm an 8 year vet and have little tolerance for shit players. I mostly blame Valve's poor MM system, because a lot of the kids I play with on both sides should not be playing with / against me. If you suck, i'll tell you what you should have done. If you make a blatant, common-sense, what did you think would happen move I will call you out and call you an idiot. If you are resistant to group collaborative play and understanding the need to shift meta mid-game to compensate for shortcomings, I will flame you. I feel the mute button for players is enough to quell "my feelings are hurt, wah." players. I've muted plenty of people that just would not stop talking or yelling, or generally making the game unenjoyable. That's what it's there for, there's no need for a global persistent mute for an excessive amount of time as people interact differently with other people. I have consistently been "punished" (global muted) for 168 hours and will continue to do so. This "behavioral tempering" will not change me, nor is it Valve's place to make such a judgement. They have provided the tools for muting and blocking, that's all that's necessary.

                    tldr; No. No, and no. Dumb idea.
                    Your point seems to be that the global mute should not exist at all, which I pretty much agree with, especially for extended periods of time. However, global mute does exist and the players punished with it are a burden to their team. This alone is a reason to exclude them from ranked.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lollaskates View Post
                      Hell no, what a terrible idea.

                      I'm an 8 year vet and have little tolerance for shit players. I mostly blame Valve's poor MM system, because a lot of the kids I play with on both sides should not be playing with / against me. If you suck, i'll tell you what you should have done. If you make a blatant, common-sense, what did you think would happen move I will call you out and call you an idiot. If you are resistant to group collaborative play and understanding the need to shift meta mid-game to compensate for shortcomings, I will flame you. I feel the mute button for players is enough to quell "my feelings are hurt, wah." players. I've muted plenty of people that just would not stop talking or yelling, or generally making the game unenjoyable. That's what it's there for, there's no need for a global persistent mute for an excessive amount of time as people interact differently with other people. I have consistently been "punished" (global muted) for 168 hours and will continue to do so. This "behavioral tempering" will not change me, nor is it Valve's place to make such a judgement. They have provided the tools for muting and blocking, that's all that's necessary.

                      tldr; No. No, and no. Dumb idea.
                      Have you even read my post right ? I'm talking about an ACTUAL muted player who cannot speak due due system muting him/her.
                      "If you suck, i'll tell you what you should have done." This sentence alone has given me all the answer I need to know that YOU DID NOT watch the replay to know exactly what happened in game.
                      If you make 1-3 mistakes that's fine no one will yell at you they'll say pay attention. BUT if you go mid feed the enemy never gank top/bot lane and never uses ulti to initiate gank (silencer) then you should expect a heavy flaming for ruining game.
                      "I feel the mute button for players is enough to quell "my feelings are hurt, wah." players.". Once Again your an idiot who did not read my post clearly or watched replay. I didnt say the player was annoying or flaming to the point my whole team muted him...HE WAS ALREADY MUTED FOR BAD BEHAVIOR !!!

                      To sum up everything, your scarred of not being able to play MMR because your muted by the system which will prevent you from playing ranked games with your friends, which in turn you aggressively declined this idea.

                      Originally posted by brandon75689 View Post
                      Dude straight up, Is Valve trying to change the world or ruin game? Either way, the mute system is fruitless.



                      Valve should really take this quote home

                      "That government is best which governs least"
                      Don't stray from the topic, this suggestion is to prevent muted players from ruining games for others in MMR.

                      Originally posted by BlinkingRiki182 View Post
                      This ^
                      Please use your own words rather then agreeing with someone who has low IQ and does not understand what this topic is all about.


                      nastyninja is the ONLY ONE who seems to understand what this thread is all about and you clueless kids just rant about my topic when you got no idea what kind of message I'm trying to send.

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                      • #12
                        shit idea -1
                        Mute system is flawed and this will be even more flawed.

                        Plus your logic that Windrunner should not buy wards but silencer should.. I laughed in silence.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Racerkid View Post
                          shit idea -1
                          Mute system is flawed and this will be even more flawed.

                          Plus your logic that Windrunner should not buy wards but silencer should.. I laughed in silence.
                          Dude ! WR is carrier ! Carrier do not buy warder ! Warder only for supporter buy ! do u understand ?! dont noob pls ! wr is carrier
                          Originally posted by 8-ball
                          You mean ppl who went to china and won countless tourneys? who won 3 out of 4 internationals? I guess everyone can see your point, indeed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Racerkid View Post
                            shit idea -1
                            Mute system is flawed and this will be even more flawed.

                            Plus your logic that Windrunner should not buy wards but silencer should.. I laughed in silence.
                            So by your conclusion, your saying that Silencer (whom made to be a support by valve/gabe) should be a carry and WR (whom made to be a carry by valve/gabe) should be a support ?

                            Just what cave have you crawled out from ? Which year have you come from ?

                            Also do you even understand what this thread even about ? Please answer me legitimately what am I trying to say in this thread ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ajaxs99 View Post
                              So by your conclusion, your saying that Silencer (whom made to be a support by valve/gabe) should be a carry and WR (whom made to be a carry by valve/gabe) should be a support ?

                              Just what cave have you crawled out from ? Which year have you come from ?

                              Also do you even understand what this thread even about ? Please answer me legitimately what am I trying to say in this thread ?
                              wr carrier silencer supporter ! WR CARRIER !

                              WR CARRY HAHAHAHA
                              Originally posted by 8-ball
                              You mean ppl who went to china and won countless tourneys? who won 3 out of 4 internationals? I guess everyone can see your point, indeed.

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