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  • Forced team matchmaking

    Quick suggestion to stop a lot of complaints. Force 5 stacks to play team matchmaking only. This way there won't be any 5v2 or similar stacks. Or maybe you could just prevent 5 stacks to meet other less rhan 5 stacks. I think the first ideea is better because 5 stacks usually smurf and it can be annoying for the other team (or easy).

  • #2
    Some slight problem might be that if players seldom 5 stack, so match making will take a lot of time (extreme cases would be if almost no one 5 stacks then you will never get matched ever). Those are just "possible" problems.
    Originally posted by whiners
    Help! <game mechanic> is ruining MUH WODOTA! Remove pls!
    Fun is always allowed. Always...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sa1nt View Post
      Quick suggestion to stop a lot of complaints. Force 5 stacks to play team matchmaking only. This way there won't be any 5v2 or similar stacks. Or maybe you could just prevent 5 stacks to meet other less rhan 5 stacks. I think the first ideea is better because 5 stacks usually smurf and it can be annoying for the other team (or easy).
      Couple of problems here:

      1. TMM is only possible with CM. CM got not every hero and some people like to play other gamemodes too (CD for instance)
      2. The composition of those 5-stacks is not always consistent. I play with 9 other friends on a fairly regular basis, we are often 5 players or more when we play but seldom always in the same composition. To cover all cases we would have to form different 252 teams

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scotsh View Post
        Couple of problems here:

        1. TMM is only possible with CM. CM got not every hero and some people like to play other gamemodes too (CD for instance)
        2. The composition of those 5-stacks is not always consistent. I play with 9 other friends on a fairly regular basis, we are often 5 players or more when we play but seldom always in the same composition. To cover all cases we would have to form different 252 teams
        I have a total of 9 teams created , you won't need all 252 cases. CM has all heroes now, there aren't any restricted ones. It would be nice to see captains draft in TMM too but if you want to play all pick .... I don't know , maybe add it too ? But I don't think it's worth it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sa1nt View Post
          I have a total of 9 teams created , you won't need all 252 cases. CM has all heroes now, there aren't any restricted ones. It would be nice to see captains draft in TMM too but if you want to play all pick .... I don't know , maybe add it too ? But I don't think it's worth it.

          LC, Broodmother, Ember and Earth Spirit are currently not available in CM.

          We got 5 teams and it happens fairly often that our current composition is not covered by that. Creating even more teams is annoying and not flexible (if we are more than 5 we rotate the lineup). Also CM takes way longer due to the picking phase, i dont want that every game.

          What would help would be to allow 6 players per team (as it was at the beginning) that would cut (in our case) the max number of teams needed to 7 and we would play TMM more often.


          Anyhow, 5-stacks are far from unbeatable, especially if you consider that stacks get a modified (higher) MMR to compensate.

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          • #6
            What if I 4 stack?
            Originally posted by 8-ball
            You mean ppl who went to china and won countless tourneys? who won 3 out of 4 internationals? I guess everyone can see your point, indeed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lemonwings View Post
              What if I 4 stack?
              Exactly. A good 4 stack can have as much impact on a game as a 5 stack can. Stacks are here, deal with it. MM could be improved regarding their handling but the principle should not change.

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              • #8
                Instead of forcing 5stacks to TMM, just input '' ONLY SOLO Q''
                meaning all players solo, ez.

                but vulva0 wont do it huehue
                Originally posted by 8-ball
                You mean ppl who went to china and won countless tourneys? who won 3 out of 4 internationals? I guess everyone can see your point, indeed.

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                • #9
                  i like play against stacks

                  shows how good i am etc

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                  • #10
                    4 stacks are completely ok. You know what the problem is ? There are teams of 5. And that last guy comes here and says "wtf volvo solo vs 5 stack daed gaem gg etc". We should just all get to one conclusion so we have hopes that the devs will read this. Maybe to generalize this , you can just make stacks face the exact same number of parties and party sizes. This would increase the search times by a lot though ... No changes can actually be made without increasing the search time.

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                    • #11
                      shutup Sa1nt

                      anyone that calls gg before the game even starts is sub 4000mmr

                      maybe thats why ur q is filled with idiots, peoples party mmr around 3-3.8

                      matchup with noobs that hav similar solo Q mmrs

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                      • #12
                        feels kinda dumb to force 5 players to play something.
                        Whenever I 5 stack, which isn't often. That doesn't mean we wanna play life/death serious like TMM has been in my experience.

                        Simple fix wouild be stacks faces against stacks in matchmaking and solo players can add solo queue or not if they want.
                        つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Solo Queue

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by f20c View Post
                          shutup Sa1nt

                          anyone that calls gg before the game even starts is sub 4000mmr

                          maybe thats why ur q is filled with idiots, peoples party mmr around 3-3.8

                          matchup with noobs that hav similar solo Q mmrs
                          I think you don't deserve your current MMR then.

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