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  • About abandoned items in the woods

    Here was sooo many threads about "courier abuse", and no one ever has come up with something better then just "lock courier from using" or "make own slots visible only to you". I want to suggest a way, that don't affect actual communication between players.

    p.1 First thing you actually want to know is WHEN item was dropped, and it wasn't you. So there is should be a message like "Courier just dropped your item "Abyssal Blade"". I don't think is necessary to show names, because looks like DOTA2 devs do not show them in another places (like glyph turn on) for a reason. This is a very rare event, and I think in 95% of cases is trolling, so additional message do not hurt.

    p.2 Items visibility.
    Can't remember if it was in WC3.
    To make them "memorized" by fog of war. On example: you drop an item in woods. If you left this place (and it filled with a fog) you still can see this item. If your opponent picked it up, it do not disappear, but when you return, you will "explore" it not here anymore. Like with towers.
    And make a switch near minimap to show this items.
    Not sure if will be unfair advantage to "mark" items dropped by your opponents (and for sure gem and rapier shouldn't be visible like this). But for your own team, and especially if is your own items, it shouldn't make any abuse possible, but it will help to "undo" item trolling.

    What do you think?

    [offtopic]My first thread and post on this board, mommy, I'm not read-only anymore[/offtopic]

  • #2
    Both ideas are acceptable imo, because they don't actually change gameplay.

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    • #3
      +1

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      • #4
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        Last edited by Magikarpkr; 07-06-2019, 07:27 PM.

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        • #5
          Locking courier is a bad idea. If it is implemented, IN PUB games, everyone forced to buy their own courier because everyone locks and dont wish to share. Considering the amout of Gold gets wasted at the early of game. Not a good choice in anyway.

          And your option 2, Making or locking ones individual items are not accessible by other players. This will take away "Shared Items"usage such as bottles, tangoes etc.

          I hope they would at least make items in courier are not droppable by others except by its own owner or so. But the people who want to troll in games..they will do it anyways.. they will have courier feed so that you cant get your item for next 5 mins or so.

          Its not the Valve.. Its the people who need to change.
          ~ArcAngel~





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          • #6
            Originally posted by jonjonjon
            i don't really want my mini map cluttered by a bunch of icons because i dropped iron wood branches.


            I concur... LOL
            ~ArcAngel~





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            • #7
              good idea. it should be togglable

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ArcAngel View Post
                Locking courier is a bad idea. If it is implemented, IN PUB games, everyone forced to buy their own courier because everyone locks and dont wish to share. Considering the amout of Gold gets wasted at the early of game. Not a good choice in anyway.
                Wow, you didn't read after first line, don't you? I wrote that I suggest something different from generic suggestions, and described it below.

                Originally posted by jonjonjon
                i like most of the suggestions other then showing them as icons on the mini map. i don't really want my mini map cluttered by a bunch of icons because i dropped iron wood branches.
                Is why I said about switch, which toggle icons when you need it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ArcAngel View Post
                  Locking courier is a bad idea. If it is implemented, IN PUB games, everyone forced to buy their own courier because everyone locks and dont wish to share. Considering the amout of Gold gets wasted at the early of game. Not a good choice in anyway.

                  And your option 2, Making or locking ones individual items are not accessible by other players. This will take away "Shared Items"usage such as bottles, tangoes etc.

                  I hope they would at least make items in courier are not droppable by others except by its own owner or so. But the people who want to troll in games..they will do it anyways.. they will have courier feed so that you cant get your item for next 5 mins or so.

                  Its not the Valve.. Its the people who need to change.
                  No you guys are just bad.

                  I would so much rather have a personal courier then share 1 courier with the rest of my team.

                  And because of the poor UI mechanics done by oh so glorious and praise Valve I can't even use a secondary courier correctly.

                  I want my personal bottlecrow back

                  I want my personal courier back.

                  Seriously you newscrubs cry too much about "BUT THATS UNFAIR" NO WHATS UNFAIR IS NOOBS GETTING MY CHICKEN KILLED WITH ALL MY ITEMS ON IT BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A TANGO AND NINJA'D IT WITHOUT TELLING ME

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ArcAngel View Post

                    And your option 2, Making or locking ones individual items are not accessible by other players. This will take away "Shared Items"usage such as bottles, tangoes etc.
                    Seriously?
                    It's so impossible...

                    If item = (bottle, tango etc.)
                    item=accessible;
                    else
                    item=unaccessible;
                    https://soundcloud.com/blinkingriki182

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                    • #11
                      OR, if you want an idea that changes gameplay a little:
                      If an item is dropped and left on the ground for more than 1 minute => the item teleports to the team's fountain.
                      This is how Dota2 games should look like! Game 1_Game 2_Game 3_Game 4_Game 5_Game 6

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