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  • Please explain why this is allowed

    I just got out of a game where I had to dual lane mid.

    As picking had started, I indicated I would be playing mid by clicking on the minimap. As I'm muted, I can't type anything in chat to indicate this. After that, the olive player on our team calls mid by typing in chat, then selects Doom. I then picked Necrolyte, and then dark green selected Shadow Fiend.

    I walked mid after buying my stuff. Doom walked to the lane and told me to get out, but seeing as I was playing mid I didn't. He then told us that he was muting everybody and then refused to leave mid. He built a Vanguard then a Mek, despite my already having one, and then lost the game.

    I would like to know why this isn't punishable and why it's happening in the first place. If I clearly indicate that I am mid, why are other players allowed to ruin my gameplay and hence my MMR?

  • #2
    Report and move on? What are WE supposed to do?

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    • #3
      How can you punish every person like that?

      Answer: You can't.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Noo View Post
        Report and move on? What are WE supposed to do?
        I never asked you to anything, apart from explain some things.
        Originally posted by manga View Post
        How can you punish every person like that?

        Answer: You can't.
        Yes, you can.

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        • #5
          It's punishable if the community thinks it is, if the specified player is a repeat offender, then players WILL report him/her and he/she'll get banned. You can't expect Valve to manually go through every single report.

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          • #6
            It's allowed because, regardless of the meta, anyone can do what they want at any time.

            Get over it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Noo View Post
              It's punishable if the community thinks it is, if the specified player is a repeat offender, then players WILL report him/her and he/she'll get banned. You can't expect Valve to manually go through every single report.
              So then why report anyone at all if their offence is not assessed properly?

              Originally posted by KangarooCornchips View Post
              It's allowed because, regardless of the meta, anyone can do what they want at any time.

              Get over it.
              No, I will not get over people ruining the time I invest into the game. From your post, I take it I'm allowed to feed if I feel like it without consequence?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scarth View Post
                As picking had started, I indicated I would be playing mid by clicking on the minimap. As I'm muted, I can't type anything in chat to indicate this. After that, the olive player on our team calls mid by typing in chat, then selects Doom. I then picked Necrolyte, and then dark green selected Shadow Fiend.
                Dude, you're going to have to be content with going mid. You can't expect someone you didn't queue up with to give up on going mid simply because you clicked on the minimap in the bottom left. 1) He might not look at it. 2) He might not give an f about it. 3) He might've decided on going mid before the game started and you can't do anything about it. At least you said you were going mid and no one else can justify being mad with you since you did say you were going mid. However, this is not LoL where it's all about spamming MID/TOP/JUNGLE/BOT as quickly as possible at the start of the picking phase. Be flexible too, but don't let it hurt your own gaming experience. The game isn't perfect, if he wants to go mid you'll just have to live with it. I personally wouldn't give an f about you calling mid if I had already decided on going mid before the game started.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VanessaFisk View Post
                  Dude, you're going to have to be content with going mid. You can't expect someone you didn't queue up with to give up on going mid simply because you clicked on the minimap in the bottom left. 1) He might not look at it. 2) He might not give an f about it. 3) He might've decided on going mid before the game started and you can't do anything about it. At least you said you were going mid and no one else can justify being mad with you since you did say you were going mid. However, this is not LoL where it's all about spamming MID/TOP/JUNGLE/BOT as quickly as possible at the start of the picking phase. Be flexible too, but don't let it hurt your own gaming experience. The game isn't perfect, if he wants to go mid you'll just have to live with it. I personally wouldn't give an f about you calling mid if I had already decided on going mid before the game started.
                  I'm flexible when it suits the team, but I somehow doubt that a our team had room for Doom to mid, when the obvious and correct choice was for him to forest. He had not taken any ability yet, and his inventory consisted of two Branches.

                  What I'm more confused about is why you're defending an uncompliant player.

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                  • #10
                    don't know what do you expect us to do? dude was prick and didn't let you mid. end of story. next time try to avoid getting muted so you can talk back
                    つ ◕_◕ つ Solo Queue!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Scarth View Post
                      I'm flexible when it suits the team, but I somehow doubt that a our team had room for Doom to mid, when the obvious and correct choice was for him to forest. He had not taken any ability yet, and his inventory consisted of two Branches.

                      What I'm more confused about is why you're defending an uncompliant player.
                      I'm defending his right to do as he pleases, within limits ofc, and going mid because he wants to go mid sure fits within those limits. Where people go is not more important than what people do. You're much more likely to lose because of an incompetent than an incompliant.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Scarth View Post
                        *snip*
                        No, I will not get over people ruining the time I invest into the game. From your post, I take it I'm allowed to feed if I feel like it without consequence?
                        Not sure how you made that assumption. I never said it would go unpunished. That's what the report system is for. If what they do effects multiple games, they will get punished.

                        Never assume.
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                        • #13
                          Make the duel mid work instead of forcing what you wanted to other players. You have no control on how other players play but you do on yourself. There is no other way but to accept and adapt that everyone do what they want in pubs regardless if they win or not.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GoldK View Post
                            Make the duel mid work instead of forcing what you wanted to other players. You have no control on how other players play but you do on yourself. There is no other way but to accept and adapt that everyone do what they want in pubs regardless if they win or not.
                            The dual mid doesn't work, though. I can easily beat Death Prophet mid; my CS was better than hers while in lane, and my ultimate can do alot more against her in an instant then her to me. Sapping XP does nothing and gives her a free early tower. I can't accept that people don't want to win. If they don't want to play as a team, they should be prohibited from playing the game, quite simply.

                            Originally posted by KangarooCornchips View Post
                            Not sure how you made that assumption. I never said it would go unpunished. That's what the report system is for. If what they do effects multiple games, they will get punished.

                            Never assume.
                            It's allowed because, regardless of the meta, anyone can do what they want at any time.
                            If he can do whatever he wants, it implies that it will go unpunished. I don't care if you were intending to mean that or not, it's how your post comes across. The issue here is that I am affected and receive no compensation, and nor do any of the other players that he ruins games for.

                            Originally posted by VanessaFisk View Post
                            I'm defending his right to do as he pleases, within limits ofc, and going mid because he wants to go mid sure fits within those limits. Where people go is not more important than what people do. You're much more likely to lose because of an incompetent than an incompliant.
                            Going mid to the detriment of the team should not be a right. Why should he be allowed to do as he pleases if it damages the entire team?
                            In addition, you'll probably need to know that what people do is often influenced by where they go in this game. If he was foresting, he would likely have undisturbed freefarm. Instead, he gave DP a level advantage by trying to dual mid with me.

                            Originally posted by D1D2 View Post
                            don't know what do you expect us to do? dude was prick and didn't let you mid. end of story. next time try to avoid getting muted so you can talk back
                            If I talk back, I'll just get muted again.

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                            • #15
                              So let me understand: some1 picks Doom and asks mid, you asked mid(but picked after Doom so you had time to adjust) and picked necro and went for mid as well then some1 picked SF and I assume that person went safelane. You say that in your current lineup Doom had no room. Well frustrated kid, if doom picked first and if you are a decent player, you would pick around it. The doom player let you all know of his decision, ofc he forced that decision on you and your teammates but then you pick and the sf picked were just a pissing contest.
                              You, a muted player for whatever reason, want to go mid when joining a game with 4 random teammates. You don't instant lock a mid hero but instead pick a second mid hero when you see that already picked mid and announced for better or worse. So you like a frustrated kid go into a pissing contest knowing that a dual mid might ruin your game since both them heroes need farm and both of them have no cc on mid = nothing useful could come. So after you lose you, a frustrated kid that can't take one for the team playing another role, come here and complain looking for compassion and understanding and possible a ban to the doom player, well you little princess you are to blame! If you see that you are muted, don't freaking go for the role that demands some communication on your part. You throw the game by going second mid. Hope that your teammates reported you.
                              Death created time to grow the things that it would kill.

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