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Prizepool how can valve split money with new way...

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  • #16
    Aaaaaaaaand its already starts! Rox.Kis disband becuase lose qualification to TI. So the biggest tournament for DotA kill yet another team. I dont know this system will be never stable...If valve dont do something it will be like this every year. Only 16 teams can be happy on the scene and rest just disbanding after qualification or after they finish 9-16 on TI. This system is wrong bring one or two team up to the stars and kill so many team with talented players. But if valve only wanna show they got it. I thought they want stable competitive scene maybe Iam wrong.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ADDee View Post
      Yeah and DotA players get salary too. And I dont know but I am from CZE and some weaker team like Liberec(last year second round of play offs UEFA trophy) pay their average player with 30000-35000CZK and that is like 1500-2000$ + they get rewards after winning some UEFA match. So I think its almost same in DotA ;-)


      Yeah only if they drop out in first qualification but that is something like dota but if they advances they get pay for every match. Even if they lose, but for draw or win they get more...

      Plus I just put example not everything must be like football
      No, it's not even close to being the same as football. Why do you think people are struggling to make esports happen?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by ADDee View Post
        Aaaaaaaaand its already starts! Rox.Kis disband becuase lose qualification to TI. So the biggest tournament for DotA kill yet another team. I dont know this system will be never stable...If valve dont do something it will be like this every year. Only 16 teams can be happy on the scene and rest just disbanding after qualification or after they finish 9-16 on TI. This system is wrong bring one or two team up to the stars and kill so many team with talented players. But if valve only wanna show they got it. I thought they want stable competitive scene maybe Iam wrong.
        Although what could Valve do in this case?
        Its not like the team itself crumbled, just that their sponsor (the Rox.Kis organization) has dropped all their DOTA 2 activities until the end of Ti4. The members of Rox.Kis haven't quit DOTA, they can move to new teams or wait until Ti4 ends and Rox.Kis (maybe) restart their DOTA 2 division.
        Valve can help guide the pro scene and try to stabilise it, but they aren't going to pay teams to stick together. Besides, without disbands and roster changes, we wouldn't have teams like NAR (or Na'Vi North America as they are competing in TI under, again gaming organizations).

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Manofchalk View Post
          Although what could Valve do in this case?
          Its not like the team itself crumbled, just that their sponsor (the Rox.Kis organization) has dropped all their DOTA 2 activities until the end of Ti4. The members of Rox.Kis haven't quit DOTA, they can move to new teams or wait until Ti4 ends and Rox.Kis (maybe) restart their DOTA 2 division.
          Valve can help guide the pro scene and try to stabilise it, but they aren't going to pay teams to stick together. Besides, without disbands and roster changes, we wouldn't have teams like NAR (or Na'Vi North America as they are competing in TI under, again gaming organizations).
          I wonder, how much people would cry about valve paying pros and/or tournaments a monthly salary instead of the orgs behind it.

          Also the fact that we currently have a over saturation on pro match ups (xth episod of navi vs alliance etc pp) dont really help but that off topic.

          I think, anyone that participant in ti4 should get a share of money so they can improve over the cause of 1 year altho we really need a self sustaining system once valve pulls the plug 5/10 years down the road :\
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          • #20
            I bet people would go nuts if Valve directly paid pro players to just outright keep playing. Then there would be fanboys clashing against fanboys as some teams get Valve sponsorship and others didn't.

            I agree that anyone who actually gets to Seattle should receive a decent amount of prize money. At the very least these players have taken the time and inconvenience to travel there (admittedly at Valve's expense) when they could have been winning something local to them in a far less competitive environment.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by J2Krauser View Post
              No, it's not even close to being the same as football. Why do you think people are struggling to make esports happen?
              Do you know what example is? I just use some football competetive rules to explain what I mean...I didnt say it its all same omg...
              Plus I just demonstrate to Bashtime that football isnt only premier league where players get millions for playing...

              I think, anyone that participant in ti4 should get a share of money so they can improve over the cause of 1 year altho we really need a self sustaining system once valve pulls the plug 5/10 years down the road :\
              Thats pretty much what I wanna....but dont just give them money, make it interesting with some system like decreasing price system....9th=35k, 10th= 30k, 11t= 25k....or 2k for each match another 3k if you win...or something.
              And I dont wanna valve sponsor teams but do something to stabilize scene...like some league, or give some money to another tournaments (money will come back from tickets anyway) becuase now we have so many tournaments with small or medium price so we can watch something every day but it is never special...
              I think ppl will get sick of DotA at this rate and scene will be far from be stable...same pro players, so many tournaments but only 2-3 rly mean something rest is just "mehh lets try it so organisation shut up"

              Potencial of DotA is rly huge and valve already know it. But I just think that they dont use him on max...with only one tournament per year. There is so much other things they can do with it even SC2 have league and their community is joke vs DotA community. When I see that 8mil price pool...you just see strong community and I dont think one big ass tournament is enough.
              Last edited by ADDee; 06-01-2014, 07:27 AM.

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              • #22
                I agree with the idea that would be better way to distribute the money and surly will create more competitiveness, and yes, maybe 1 big tournament a year isn't enough, maybe Valve can work with some of the other organizations that already make big tournaments to create something like a league as you said. But is Valve up to take on such responsibility for the DotA community and scene after all they are just a game development company :P

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