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  • #1

    Too easy for a stacked team to abuse solo team-mates

    Why is there no punishment for this? For example match 777810313 where dazzle made the choice to let me die in lane because he didn't like that I (on weaver) was taking last hits from him. When the troll told me to fuck off it became apparent that they were a stack so instead of getting into an argument I decided to spend the game defending against the split pushing prophet. I spent the game ignoring their constant abuse which I guess they didn't appreciate, because the kotl decided to blink-recall me into the trees (I time lapsed the first one and soloed the prophet which was fun*, but couldn't time lapse the second one) leaving me with no choice but to wait for the inevitable afk abandonment (my first ever abandonment, no less).

    There needs to be some way around this. Giving back true solo queue is the dream solution, potential alternatives would be not allowing any 4 stacks, or maybe implementing the unstuck command would at least help.

    *literally having to beat my own team to get kills
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    Originally posted by Larwood View Post
    Why is there no punishment for this? For example match 777810313 where dazzle made the choice to let me die in lane because he didn't like that I (on weaver) was taking last hits from him.
    Just play their game mate. When I get bullshit like that I just tell my team what happened and then "If he wants to ruin the game I can play the same game, if it happens again you'll see what ruining the game is" and if he repeats just go farm the rest of the game in jungle, get a rapier and "Lose it" to the other team. Or if you want to make it super obvious just tell to the other team what happened and feed non stop.

    I did that the other day and the guy was saying "But I was only trying to ruin the game for you! you are ruining it for everyone!" X) some shit excuse.
    Make a NON automated report system.
    I would rather wait 10 minutes for a balanced, fun and exciting match that will last 1+ hours. Than wait 10 seconds for a poorly balanced crapmatch that will end in 30- minutes
    Valve, How I'm I supposed to respect certain boundaries to prevent a mute if I dont know them because they are different for each and every person on each and every game I play?
    The only type of player that dislikes having his stats public are the players that suck and cheaters

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shmendrich View Post
      Just play their game mate. When I get bullshit like that I just tell my team what happened and then "If he wants to ruin the game I can play the same game, if it happens again you'll see what ruining the game is" and if he repeats just go farm the rest of the game in jungle, get a rapier and "Lose it" to the other team. Or if you want to make it super obvious just tell to the other team what happened and feed non stop.

      I did that the other day and the guy was saying "But I was only trying to ruin the game for you! you are ruining it for everyone!" X) some shit excuse.
      yeah become just as bad as they are or worse, that's how game quality is gonna increase...

      @OP there is no rules on who should/should not take cs, if he wants to act like a carry with a dazzle he has any right to. If it goes to not helping you cause of that, then report him under ability abuse. As for kotl abuse, same thing. Reporting him is the only solution right now (and after the first one you should've just refused help from him (there is an option for that)). It does suck but game ruiners exist in every single team game ever, becoming one yourself because of that is childish and is just ruining the game even more.
      The world is black and white. On one side there are those who are right, complain about valve, spam unhelpfully and everyone who disapprove what you are doing are obviously valveknights.

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      • #4
        Pretty sure that if you disable help from him you can't get recalled.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shmendrich View Post
          Just play their game mate. When I get bullshit like that I just tell my team what happened and then "If he wants to ruin the game I can play the same game, if it happens again you'll see what ruining the game is" and if he repeats just go farm the rest of the game in jungle, get a rapier and "Lose it" to the other team. Or if you want to make it super obvious just tell to the other team what happened and feed non stop.
          I did that the other day and the guy was saying "But I was only trying to ruin the game for you! you are ruining it for everyone!" X) some shit excuse.
          And then he will get LPQ...How is that fair?
          It's summer, lots of kids are in vacation, the matchmaking quality will decrease... Already seeing this kind of people in my games... I got muted 1 week because they suck so bad...
          And Techies is coming... so get used to fails.
          This is how Dota2 games should look like! Game 1_Game 2_Game 3_Game 4_Game 5_Game 6

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mabujold View Post
            yeah become just as bad as they are or worse, that's how game quality is gonna increase...
            I personally think it does (Again its just my personal opinion and I think it could be wrong)
            1° Next time he even THINKS of abusing someone that way he will immediately remember the guy who fed 40 kills after he did the same, and that his own stupid attitude ruined a game that might have been easily won. And even if he is stupid, his team will remind him or blame him/kick him out of the team if he keeps doing that.
            2° Reporting is no solution, the current report system is a joke, real abusers barely get a hand slap for doing awful things and sometimes innocent players are punished.
            3° Do you like playing and constantly thinking "If I gank will he help? If I help him will he fight? or run and let me die? If I push with them will he forcestaff me in to the enemy team? Will he hide another of my items if I use the courier?...I dont, I dont like playing with an enemy player in my own team.

            Originally posted by vladn View Post
            And then he will get LPQ...How is that fair?
            And Techies is coming... so get used to fails.
            Well I dont do this if they just text or voice abuse me, I dont give a shit about that, I only do it when they constantly do game ruining stuff (stealing items, tossing you in to enemy, leaving you to die even tho the fight was won if he helped) And I have NEVER been in LPQ. I do this maybe once or twice a month (Which is when I get this kind of shit players)

            So yeah, I hope he doesnt meets this kind of trash so often...
            Last edited by Shmendrich; 07-16-2014, 02:01 AM.
            Make a NON automated report system.
            I would rather wait 10 minutes for a balanced, fun and exciting match that will last 1+ hours. Than wait 10 seconds for a poorly balanced crapmatch that will end in 30- minutes
            Valve, How I'm I supposed to respect certain boundaries to prevent a mute if I dont know them because they are different for each and every person on each and every game I play?
            The only type of player that dislikes having his stats public are the players that suck and cheaters

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jigglypuffz View Post
              Pretty sure that if you disable help from him you can't get recalled.
              Yeah I forgot to do it after the first one because I was busy killing the prophet. The option itself is rarely anything more than a way to close the stable door after the horse bolted, it's not like griefers warn you they're about to mess with you.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mabujold View Post
                there is no rules on who should/should not take cs, if he wants to act like a carry with a dazzle he has any right to
                I didn't say there was, I was just giving his reasoning for letting me die.

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