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  • Valve is Becoming greedy... Who actually didnt expected that?

    Nemesis Assassin Event

    The Nemesis Assassins Event seems to be a type of a mini-game within our regular games. All those who purchase the Phantom Assassin Arcana will enable themselves to be eligible for this event to initiate in their games. xxxx

    Both Normal and Ranked Matchmaking are currently adorned with this new mode and the related FAQ. | Preview
    How does it work?

    When a game is started, a player the Phantom Assassin Arcana will be given a contract to kill another player in the game. The contract will be publicly announced to everyone so every player knows who the target is. The mini-game is defaulted to start around 15 seconds after the game begins.
    Once the contract has been accepted, two things can happen - it can be fulfilled or denied. If PA kills her target, then the contract is considered fulfilled but in the turn of events if the target slays PA, then the contract is considered denied. It is required that these two kill each other and not by team mates.
    If PA completes her target, she along with her team mates will be rewarded for fulfilling the deed but if the target takes down PA, he and his team mates will be rewarded for denying the contract.
    At the end of the game, the rewards are listed out. If no one on the team owns a Manifold Paradox (PA Arcana), the reward will be left unclaimed. (So basically that should mean that even if one player in the game has the item, the mini-game should kick off. The rest can participate. However if a team has no arcana owners on their team, then they won't be able to claim the reward.)
    Additionally, gaining more score during the course of the event will let you unlock two new colors for the blades on your PA arcana. | Preview

    New Trophies

    Nemesis Assassin: Awarded for Fulfilling contracts during the Nemesis Assassin Event.
    Assassin Assassinated: Awarded for Denying contracts during the Nemesis Assassin Event.

    Since Valve promised that Items WILL NOT AFFECT GAMEPLAY in any way , what the fuck is then this shit?
    I can already imagine myself how pub is gonna be like:

    "Why u focus Centaur with 4k hp?"
    "Stfu noob, need items"

    Either you get enemy team 5 maning to kill the PA, or you'll get PA's team 5 man smoking to kill the Crystal Maiden. And even if you won't do it yourself, a LOT of people will.
    Thanks for your awesome items not affecting balance valvo!

    Like if we dont have enough trouble dealing with your shitty matchmaking and report system , now people will go apeshit about retarded items every game
    Last edited by Wambo; 11-19-2014, 11:34 AM.

  • #2
    Just don't buy it ...
    Stop spent money till they provide to their own community what we're asking for ...
    No money earned ? They will listen our hints/issues.
    Money earned? Who the hell cares about you.

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    • #3
      They just need to disable it from ranked, and it's fine.
      Possible solution to foreigners issue
      In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aenigma View Post
        Just don't buy it ...
        Stop spent money till they provide to their own community what we're asking for ...
        No money earned ? They will listen our hints/issues.
        Money earned? Who the hell cares about you.
        Agreed! Most players will say, "NO MONEY NO TALK".
        Actually, that line is for us to throw at VALVE. If VALVE has lesser profits, they won't do so much of greedy things and will be more concern on players' opinions.
        Still remember the recent treasure chest? It suddenly changed to "February 1, 2015" as a date for new buyers to do their trades/sales for the items of the treasure chest.
        I am not really sure whether the dumb VALVE really read my post there or other complaints from other place; just now the date changed to "31st January 2015". LOL?
        Probably, VALVE wants players riot until they allow us to make trade/sale?

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        • #5
          The Problem is , even if (most) of the people wont even buy the item , a lot of people will.
          PA is 2nd most played hero and even if we will get a pa firstpicking retard every 5th game it will still affect the quality of the games ( like the quality isnt bad enough already )

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          • #6
            Can't wait to see the Item farmers... 5vs5 premades on far away, empty servers with strange language settings facing each other and trading wins so they both get items...
            Kind of the item farm during the TI4...

            GJ Valve...more item farmers ONLY for those who buy the ugly PA arcana.

            AT LEAST MAKE A SEPARATED QUE!!!!

            I don't need to see try hard PA every single game.
            This is how Dota2 games should look like! Game 1_Game 2_Game 3_Game 4_Game 5_Game 6

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            • #7
              I don't think it will be a problem quite frankly. When people queue ranked, they will still care more about mmr than about the items they gain from the event, but I'm not against only having the mode in normal unranked matches. Pa's gonna be in every game regardless, already a super popular hero who is now getting a ton of hype from an arcana. It will die down soon enough, and you can get your pudge every game again.

              I also don't think valve's being too greedy, but I do think that if they promise something that it should come in a more tame form initially, and then modify it rather than releasing something drastic and then scaling it back after some intense backlash.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aisaka_Taiga View Post
                I don't think it will be a problem quite frankly. When people queue ranked, they will still care more about mmr than about the items they gain from the event, but I'm not against only having the mode in normal unranked matches. Pa's gonna be in every game regardless, already a super popular hero who is now getting a ton of hype from an arcana. It will die down soon enough, and you can get your pudge every game again.

                I also don't think valve's being too greedy, but I do think that if they promise something that it should come in a more tame form initially, and then modify it rather than releasing something drastic and then scaling it back after some intense backlash.
                PPL care more about there MMR i have atleast 2 ppl in my evry game that are there for FUN and not to win or anything when you seems slightly anoyed when your CM goes 111 and rest on stats and you get called a rager when you slightly inc your voice and tell him how anoyed you are that he takes ranked so unserious.

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                • #9
                  More than anything, valve is good at business ... they didn't start this company for the sake of friendship or brotherhood.

                  you need to understand, it's only business ... nothing personal!

                  every move they make is calculated precisely, they follow a plotted plan (a flexible one) ... that is why valve is where it is today.

                  why do you think they removed keys ? or boosters ?
                  or have you noticed that recently, you can't click on a sellers icon to go to their profile (to prevent people from attempting to contact the seller and convince them to trade, which will prevent valve from earning their 15% fee)

                  keys are removed to reduce the amount of trading and instead redirect people back to market and dota store.

                  boosters are removed to force you to buy this years compendium.

                  having said all that, it's all my opinion and not necessarily a fact.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Aenigma View Post
                    Just don't buy it ...
                    Stop spent money till they provide to their own community what we're asking for ...
                    No money earned ? They will listen our hints/issues.
                    Money earned? Who the hell cares about you.
                    Its happening in a lot of games.

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                    • #11
                      OR the item simply edits the arcana's appearance, seeing how the even can start even without the arcana being in game.

                      It's like people did not even read the post.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wambo View Post
                        Nemesis Assassin Event

                        The Nemesis Assassins Event seems to be a type of a mini-game within our regular games. All those who purchase the Phantom Assassin Arcana will enable themselves to be eligible for this event to initiate in their games. xxxx

                        Both Normal and Ranked Matchmaking are currently adorned with this new mode and the related FAQ. | Preview
                        How does it work?

                        When a game is started, a player the Phantom Assassin Arcana will be given a contract to kill another player in the game. The contract will be publicly announced to everyone so every player knows who the target is. The mini-game is defaulted to start around 15 seconds after the game begins.
                        Once the contract has been accepted, two things can happen - it can be fulfilled or denied. If PA kills her target, then the contract is considered fulfilled but in the turn of events if the target slays PA, then the contract is considered denied. It is required that these two kill each other and not by team mates.
                        If PA completes her target, she along with her team mates will be rewarded for fulfilling the deed but if the target takes down PA, he and his team mates will be rewarded for denying the contract.
                        At the end of the game, the rewards are listed out. If no one on the team owns a Manifold Paradox (PA Arcana), the reward will be left unclaimed. (So basically that should mean that even if one player in the game has the item, the mini-game should kick off. The rest can participate. However if a team has no arcana owners on their team, then they won't be able to claim the reward.)
                        Additionally, gaining more score during the course of the event will let you unlock two new colors for the blades on your PA arcana. | Preview

                        New Trophies

                        Nemesis Assassin: Awarded for Fulfilling contracts during the Nemesis Assassin Event.
                        Assassin Assassinated: Awarded for Denying contracts during the Nemesis Assassin Event.

                        Since Valve promised that Items WILL NOT AFFECT GAMEPLAY in any way , what the fuck is then this shit?
                        I can already imagine myself how pub is gonna be like:

                        "Why u focus Centaur with 4k hp?"
                        "Stfu noob, need items"

                        Either you get enemy team 5 maning to kill the PA, or you'll get PA's team 5 man smoking to kill the Crystal Maiden. And even if you won't do it yourself, a LOT of people will.
                        Thanks for your awesome items not affecting balance valvo!

                        Like if we dont have enough trouble dealing with your shitty matchmaking and report system , now people will go apeshit about retarded items every game
                        This is definitely very bad news.

                        A quick read of this forum shows how desperate players are for rewards.

                        It's not F2P, it's not P2W, it's not Freemium, it's not subscription.

                        It doesn't matter if you pay or not, the game will still be broken.

                        Rather than fix the community management systems, the solution seems to be to make the game more casual so the player base sheds more serious players. Then the game becomes more like TF2, where people really don't care if they win or lose.

                        To think that this won't ruin the game is just naive.

                        Sure it'll make the game more profitable, but at the cost of destroying matches for all those who enjoy Dota.

                        PA is the probably the mostly easily countered carry in the game. I virtually never lose to her. One item pretty much turns off the entire hero.

                        It's not even going to work out well for those who buy the Arcana, because they'll be constantly in LPQ, since it'll be overwhelmingly seen as a game ruining item, particularly at higher rank.

                        Since this has already been advertised and preorders sold, they need to honour this, so I can't see how this can be a seperate event, or how they can seperate item farmers from the rest of the pool.

                        I think there are 2 options for more serious players, if this is the route Dota will take:

                        * In house leagues
                        * Stop playing Dota until something changes.

                        If there's a silver lining to this, then it should force them to finally fix LPQ, because selling items that put people into LPQ will make this issue unavoidable.
                        Last edited by Craig; 11-19-2014, 10:48 PM.
                        To avoid LPQ:

                        Don't draw attention to yourself
                        Don't use voice or chat except for 'ss'
                        Mute all at lvl 1
                        Only play in parties
                        Get alternate accounts
                        Limit your usage to one or two games per day per account
                        Don't play too well
                        Don't play on Sunday or Monday
                        Wait until the developers reset LPQ status

                        If you're getting matched with trolls or feeders:

                        You may have been placed in a hidden pool. There is no known way out of this, apart from moving to a different account.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craig View Post

                          I think there are 2 options for more serious players, if this is the route Dota will take:

                          * In house leagues
                          * Stop playing Dota until something changes..
                          or Valve will just make the event for public matchmaking and not Ranked, I will personally like that, public MM should be for more casual fun games so adding an event to it that only people who bought the Arcana and ofc if all 10 people that are in that game accept the event, I do not see any problems. Many people stated that there will be item farmers but we don't even know what kind of items will be given.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Baki_ss View Post
                            or Valve will just make the event for public matchmaking and not Ranked, I will personally like that, public MM should be for more casual fun games so adding an event to it that only people who bought the Arcana and ofc if all 10 people that are in that game accept the event, I do not see any problems. Many people stated that there will be item farmers but we don't even know what kind of items will be given.
                            Afraid not. It's in ranked too. You can preview it in the test client right now.
                            To avoid LPQ:

                            Don't draw attention to yourself
                            Don't use voice or chat except for 'ss'
                            Mute all at lvl 1
                            Only play in parties
                            Get alternate accounts
                            Limit your usage to one or two games per day per account
                            Don't play too well
                            Don't play on Sunday or Monday
                            Wait until the developers reset LPQ status

                            If you're getting matched with trolls or feeders:

                            You may have been placed in a hidden pool. There is no known way out of this, apart from moving to a different account.

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                            • #15
                              I refuse to buy any items

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