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  • #16
    Well i did find it weird that he kept writing about stuff that simply isn't true.

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    • #17
      how long do shadowbans go for?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dirty harry View Post
        You should honestly stop making assumptions like this. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about:
        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/714143275
        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/714198793
        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/726712179

        3 examples of matches played in the shadow pool ranked with bots to boost mmr. And this is pretty much at the beginning when this pool was invented. If you claim that something is fact, then make sure it is fact. So far you try to talk about something you don't know anything about, which makes you not look very good.

        If you have an oppinion, then that's fine, but you should really stop making assumptions left and right without any backup whatsoever. The situation is as i explained, i know since i am shadowbanned.
        Originally posted by BlinkingRiki182 View Post
        +1

        The guy shouldn't apologize that he isn't shadowbanned, he should apologize that he's talking bullshit. Just my 2cnts of course.
        Funny, how two guys can be so arrogant to claim others don't know what they're talking about, when they themselves don't know what their talking about.
        It's a FACT that many player in the so called shadow pool can not find games at all. They queue and never find a game (last post from today: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=157718 ) . GermanViet is correct with what he is posting so get off your high horse.

        It's also correct that some players queue and find games with other "banned" players, often resulting in tons of feeding bot games (like in OPs case).

        I have no clue why there are these differences, but both versions exist.
        If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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        • #19
          Kryil, it takes one to know one. As you generally don't know what you are talking about majority of the time.

          Originally posted by Kryil- View Post
          I have no clue

          ^Nuff said

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          • #20
            Rofl i gained +50 MMR on my shadow banned account vs 9 Bots before i sold the account. Queue times were long (50min+) but u were able to find ranked games, not sure if its still working.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kryil- View Post
              Funny, how two guys can be so arrogant to claim others don't know what they're talking about, when they themselves don't know what their talking about.
              It's a FACT that many player in the so called shadow pool can not find games at all. They queue and never find a game (last post from today: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=157718 ) . GermanViet is correct with what he is posting so get off your high horse.

              It's also correct that some players queue and find games with other "banned" players, often resulting in tons of feeding bot games (like in OPs case).

              I have no clue why there are these differences, but both versions exist.
              with this. shadow pool has 2 types right?
              - MMR Abuse
              - 2 Accounts in 1 PC (im included)

              thus both have same punishment?
              as this comment says
              http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...=1#post1214474
              "Depends on what you did. If you just launched two Dota instances on your PC, stop using the software that allowed to doit and you will get unbanned. If you abused MMR, then you might be banned forever."

              Abusing MMR will set you to perma shadow ban?

              Hopes
              Shiny Hats

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              • #22
                One of my accounts was in a hidden pool for a while, aka shadow-banned. Ranked matches took 50+ minutes to find.

                Of course there is no customer service for this game and Volvo doesn't give a shit about false positives, so basically if you don't like what is happening, my only advice is go play a game where the developer offers some kind of customer service you can discuss issues with.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Garthilk View Post
                  One of my accounts was in a hidden pool for a while, aka shadow-banned. Ranked matches took 50+ minutes to find.

                  Of course there is no customer service for this game and Volvo doesn't give a shit about false positives, so basically if you don't like what is happening, my only advice is go play a game where the developer offers some kind of customer service you can discuss issues with.
                  yeah! we cant get clear response on how long? why did? since when?
                  and yes valve's office needs to do something.
                  its just Dota 2 Valve team needs some time! hopefully

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cret_ View Post
                    yeah! we cant get clear response on how long? why did? since when?
                    and yes valve's office needs to do something.
                    its just Dota 2 Valve team needs some time! hopefully
                    Lol the dota 2 valve team/ office will do nothing. Valve is content with making $10million+ a month off dota 2. They do not care shadow ban hidden pool, or LPQ, or Ranked, or their trashy report system. The only thing they care about is making money every month. They do not care about the community or what the community thinks. They are making to much money to care about any of that. They simply provide a flawed game on a networked that isn't secure, and can be easily exploited.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by getoffme View Post
                      Lol the dota 2 valve team/ office will do nothing. Valve is content with making $10million+ a month off dota 2. They do not care shadow ban hidden pool, or LPQ, or Ranked, or their trashy report system. The only thing they care about is making money every month. They do not care about the community or what the community thinks. They are making to much money to care about any of that. They simply provide a flawed game on a networked that isn't secure, and can be easily exploited.
                      they did care
                      they did have time to make this hidden pool at no time
                      so they did care really

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cret_ View Post
                        they did care
                        they did have time to make this hidden pool at no time
                        so they did care really
                        No not really. The hidden pool was more so created to keep players from making other players stop playing dota 2. So the hidden pool was made in a attempt solely to try and keep players from quitting dota 2 from frustration. To keep them around so valve can make money off them. It's about valve making money, not about your gaming experience in dota 2.

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                        • #27
                          I don't know, i think the hidden pool is actually working and is not a waste. Was there ever a guy who abused the MM AND got out of the hidden pool? I think no, i know that JRB and some other dude got his MMR reset after sending like 3842429 mails to Valve, but like the rest will stay in the hidden pool forever, thus making their accounts unusable. Well i couldn't care less, i sold my 2 shadow banned acounts for 100+ EUR to some poor dudes, was worth it.

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