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Life time Rank match ban for supper intentional feeders!

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  • Life time Rank match ban for supper intentional feeders!

    Today I was playing a rank match with my friend and I witness something that I had never seen before, NP and Magnus feeding from min 0, yes the min 0!!!
    NP keep teleporting to the tire 3 mid tower and Magnus rushing to their towers none stop mode and all this was happening without any argue between us even without talking a word!
    Yes I do report them and when I checked their recent matches, I saw the same routine for last 2 - 3 matches.
    I think just giving a LP for 4 or 5 matches is not the punishment suitable for such a behavior, for persons who ruin the game just for their amusement!
    I play CSGO too and they have very powerful punishment rules for cheating and ruining the game and I think we should have such rules here too.
    I think their should be a permanent Rank match ban for player who do such and do it repeatedly.
    All I want from playing is to enjoy from dota2 and have some fun times with my friends but instead I'm getting so much headaches recently.
    Do you agree that valve should make serious rules about such kind of behaviors or not?
    I don't know maybe It's the time to leave playing dota2!
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Sowl View Post
    Today I was playing a rank match with my friend and I witness something that I had never seen before, NP and Magnus feeding from min 0, yes the min 0!!!
    NP keep teleporting to the tire 3 mid tower and Magnus rushing to their towers none stop mode and all this was happening without any argue between us even without talking a word!
    Yes I do report them and when I checked their recent matches, I saw the same routine for last 2 - 3 matches.
    I think just giving a LP for 4 or 5 matches is not the punishment suitable for such a behavior, for persons who ruin the game just for their amusement!
    I play CSGO too and they have very powerful punishment rules for cheating and ruining the game and I think we should have such rules here too.
    I think their should be a permanent Rank match ban for player who do such and do it repeatedly.
    All I want from playing is to enjoy from dota2 and have some fun times with my friends but instead I'm getting so much headaches recently.
    Do you agree that valve should make serious rules about such kind of behaviors or not?
    I don't know maybe It's the time to leave playing dota2!
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]40005[/ATTACH]
    Every, and literally EVERY of my 100's of ranked losses are 100% b/c I get kids from minute 0 non stop intentionally feeding....Valve does not care, community does not care, b/c pros don't have to suffer.

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    • #3
      Hi there...
      I agree with this...
      in games like dota with millions of players, controlling the madness of players is the most important things...!!!
      this is not fair we afraid of crazy feeder flamer players in every match, instead of enjoy of game with players...!!!
      if this not gonna fix so remove the ranked MMR option and everyone play normal match with accepting the feeders (like a rule) or refresh the MMR value in period of time...
      Hope this issue will fix by valve team soon..
      Thanks...
      Regards...

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      • #4
        If you are going to use such an extreme punishment, you need a very accurate algorithm to back it up. How would the game tell the difference between somehow who intentionally feeds and someone who is just terrible/having a bad lane?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kazzymodus View Post
          If you are going to use such an extreme punishment, you need a very accurate algorithm to back it up. How would the game tell the difference between somehow who intentionally feeds and someone who is just terrible/having a bad lane?
          HI there...
          as you can see in dota "report option" we have "international feeding" if the dota team care about this issue they check the reports and replay us, so there is punishment for them now the problem is the punishment is weak for who is feed for certain, we can easily take picture and report match details like this image who is on above post or report on dota report system and share the issue...
          if you have bad lane or poor support or what ever... do you die over 40 times in 33 minute ???
          The algorithm is simple...
          for example die 2,3 times less than every 1 min it's a feed for certain...
          the issue is the dota team, they can handle this ( like a lot of game handle this ) but they don't care about it or don't spend their time on this...
          hope it's clear...
          Thanks...
          Regards...

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          • #6
            When some body have over 1 death per min he/she is totally feeding thats not hard to recognize, remember all match data is recorded.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by E.K View Post
              HI there...
              as you can see in dota "report option" we have "international feeding" if the dota team care about this issue they check the reports and replay us, so there is punishment for them now the problem is the punishment is weak for who is feed for certain, we can easily take picture and report match details like this image who is on above post or report on dota report system and share the issue...
              if you have bad lane or poor support or what ever... do you die over 40 times in 33 minute ???
              The algorithm is simple...
              for example die 2,3 times less than every 1 min it's a feed for certain...
              the issue is the dota team, they can handle this ( like a lot of game handle this ) but they don't care about it or don't spend their time on this...
              hope it's clear...
              Thanks...
              Regards...
              Reports are not manually checked. That would take an immense amount of manpower. They are handled by an automated system.

              Originally posted by Sowl View Post
              When some body have over 1 death per min he/she is totally feeding thats not hard to recognize, remember all match data is recorded.
              Yes, it is hard to recognise. You can't just normalise such statistics and expect the algorithm to pick them up in every and all cases. Supposedly someone starts feeding after the fifteen minute mark? Or if they become wise of the 1 dpm limits and time their deaths?

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              • #8
                I don't say that it's easy, but It can be done, you just have to design an algorithm to run on intentional feed reported players or place some vote for kick scenario like CSGO, half+1 vote is needed for kicking a player, you can win 4 v 5 if you can kick the intentional feeder.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kazzymodus View Post
                  Reports are not manually checked. That would take an immense amount of manpower. They are handled by an automated system.
                  Reports are not manually checked. That would take an immense amount of manpower. They are handled by an automated system.
                  read my comment again you just don't get it...

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                  • #10
                    Automated system is automated.
                    Spoiler: 
                    I guard the rear.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by E.K View Post
                      read my comment again you just don't get it...
                      Reports are not and never will be checked manually. I perfectly get what the status quo is, I merely don't get what you're suggesting because it's wildly inefficient.

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                      • #12
                        I think he's saying that he was falsely accused in a dramatic way, hopefully by now he has realized that makes no difference because the system is automated.
                        Spoiler: 
                        I guard the rear.

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                        • #13
                          Well maybe CS:GO has more competent developers,and anyway while i do agree some form of measure should be taken against shit like this,i don't think a perma ban will ever be an option.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Assguard View Post
                            I think he's saying that he was falsely accused in a dramatic way, hopefully by now he has realized that makes no difference because the system is automated.
                            CS:GO has that system. It's only a question of how they implement it. Some few users with 0-2 reports and 0 abandons could be chosen (we are already getting conduct summary). Why not use it to choose "overwatchers"?

                            The criteria could eventually be positive winrate and good conduct summary.
                            Threads I think are useful to read:



                            Just another day on EU servers.

                            ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE BETTER PUNISHMENT SYSTEM ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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                            • #15
                              I'm studying software engineering masters, an algorithm can be made by going throw feed reported statistics and get to a standard, and you can be 90% sure who meet this standards are intentional feeders.

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